And when both get too close, that's when you release yellow

Brands don't have to do shit like this. They have weird trolls with weirder parasocial relationships to intellectual property to do it for them, unprompted.

1.5 years of learning unity gone down the shitter.

And this is the real damage to their business here. They clearly lost sight of their business model: Create an army of developers who know their product very well, so that it's on a short list of products studios are all but forced to consider.

A wave of developers who know soemthing other than Unity or Unreal has the potential to turn the games development ecosystem totally on its head. They didn't shoot themselves on the foot, they possibly shot themselves in the femoral artery.

This is coming in the wake of protests against pension reform being rammed through and riots over police killing kids.

There's zero reason to believe "being exploited by bad actors" isn't the point.

Unity: Successfully implemented a product strategy that floods the market with game developers that know how to use its product.

You, an insufferable prick: "Why would they use a product they could find ready-trained developers for when they could use a niche product no one has any skills in??!?"

Being able to one-click subscribe to all communities with the same name known by one's instance is a frequently asked for feature, so I can see it coming down the pipeline, but no, it's not a thing yet.

Even short of that, though, it would be really nice if the community search page had subscribe/unsubscribe buttons right there in the search results. It would at least make it easier.

That's stage 3 enshitification for you.

It's stupid, but also it's meaningless. People don't actually enter URLs into web browsers anymore, nor do they pay any attention to the URLs that are plastered over everything. They google the name of the thing they want to access, and "the right view" is easy enough to find.

Worse, it's a podcast, so it's website is just an ad for the actual thing, just like the background is, so it's not like she actually cares if anyone goes there. She wants them to search iTunes or whatever for it.

Laughing at her for the meaningless typo while she successfully markets her shitty podcast is just smug and empty catharsis. It's patting yourself on the back for noticing that your neighbour forgot to turn their lights out when evacuating as wildfires convert your entire neighbourhood to ash.

Have they remembered to ask Boebert to abstain from making pork porn during Biden's impeachment carnival, too?

Liberals can’t focus on one topic for more than a few weeks or months before they jump onto the next big travesty

No, it's more that there are a diverse group of liberals all trying to get attention for whatever issue their pocket is trying to address. The conservatives only care about one issue: Being at the top of the hierarchy. This means they're all working toward similar, reinforcing goals.

It's not an attention span issue. It's a divergent needs issue.

Well, then they'll have consented, then. Ethical conundrum solved!

I get that the tin pot dictator narrative is popular wrt subreddit mods, but it really isn't a useful model for understanding people's behaviour.

Fear of change, denial of loss, and sunk cost are all much more powerful tools for understanding.

Seems like a good place to remind people that the police do not prevent break-ins, robberies, or muggings. They just show up after-the-fact and do little to nothing to get people's stuff back.

Ehhh. kbin's quite feature-incomplete in its own right, it's just a different set of features that are incomplete. I don't think there's anything about kbin that's actually superior to lemmy, just... different. Meanwhile, Betamax had inarguably better video, and inarguably worse capacity.

You're asking two questions here. One is about some kind of purity test, which... You gotta let that one go. The crowd isn't here to pass judgement on you, and asking it to do so is a kind of psychological self harm.

The other is about whether using a particular Reddit front end supports Reddit. The answer to that is an unqualified "yes".

The two together point to you wanting to use Reddit, but not wanting to be judged poorly for doing so, and that's an anxiety state you don't deserve to live in. You either believe strongly enough about not supporting Reddit for your own reasons to not use it, or you don't. And that's ok, because they're your beliefs. You're not some soldier in some holy war.

"They should have researched that thing the company hadn't done and given no signals that they would do."

Dear God, do you listen to yourself talk? I hope no one else fucking has to.

Huh. That's the same behaviour Unberto Eco identified with fascist movements in his essay on the subject, Ur-Fascism:

Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak". On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.

Yes.

It's a pay-to-harass scheme.

It depends on what you mean by "mass exodus".

There has been a mass exodus, in the sense that a mass of people have exited the site and moved elsewhere in a very short period of time. There has not been one, in the sense that the majority of users have left the site.

I get that the people most affected by changes may want to feel like literally everyone and their dog pulled up stakes to follow them. That they'd want that sense of solidarity, and the feeling that they're giving a proper "Fuck you" to the people that ruined their good time. And I get that people who are just exploring new spaces want to feel like they're choosing the "winning" side.

But that isn't the way these things work.

Habits are sticky. Familiar spaces are sticky. Most people do not like change, and will coats to momentum for as long as that momentum exists. They're not going to migrate until Reddit is completely crumbling.

And maybe we don't want them to.

This space is not ready for 50 million people. The moderation tools aren't there yet. The infrastructure to keep them from just jumping on a single server isn't there yet. The tools and documentation to help people easily set up new instances are still new and being stress tested.

The goal of killing a billion dollar company, or three of them even, isn't within reach. That's not a thing that happens overnight. But this is the ground work for taking on that task.

The first thing people need before they can even consider leaving is a viable alternative, and that's what we're making here by being active, and interesting.

People love to blame the victim for defending themselves over the problematic person who is abusing them, because if they acknowledge that someone is being abusive that kind of morally obligates them to step in.

And they very much don't want to do that.

And obviously the exploitation of users for their knowledge and content so that the owners of Reddit Inc. can gain wealth for sitting on their thumbs is different from the kind of abuse one's mind might go to when the word is raised, but it's the same dynamic.

Someone is claiming mistreatment, those around them are annoyed by the claims, not by the mistreatment, because the person standing up for themselves is putting onlookers in the dangerous position of examining their relationship to that mistreatment.

And they don't wanna.

"Legal and final" are weasel words. Plenty of things that are rigged are legal. Take, uh, the law for a gazillion examples.

This comes off as continuing to fuel the narrative while also trying to slap a "please don't sue us again" sticker on it.

People keep claiming this this, and yet it does little to explain hmthr large number of smaller companies that have no real estate holdings.

Also, it totally overlooks what the actual purpose of money is to the wealthy, namely control. It's not money for money's sake, nor is it control for money's sake, but rather money for control's sake.

Meanwhile, WFH is a big shift in worker autonomy. Many employers have treated employees working from home with extreme suspicion, going so far as to accuse us of theft just because they can't directly watch us sit at a desk. They installed computer input trackers on remote hardware, they got belligerent over the idea that people maybe - just maybe - they were doing laundry or soemthing on company time, and they're nettled over the idea that people were sitting on their couches.

This isn't the behaviour of people concerned about their stock portfolios, or of landlords upset that their renters may not renew their lease in 5 years. These are not rational actors making rational decisions about long term consequences. These are people who have lost their fucking minds over having given up just the slightest, insignificant amount of control over their employees lives and, importantly, having handed it over to those employees.

They'll happily take a productivity hit, a revenue decline, or even a massive loss in institutional knowledge if it means clawing back these miniscule gains in worker power.

And if we're lucky, it'll cost them significantly more control over workers in the long run.

Wait, this is a Bethesda game. I assumed that that was the explanation.

I wonder how much Putin paid for Elon. I can't help but imagine it was as little as a scratch behind the ear and telling him that "he's a good boy, yes he is! Yes he is!"

Wow, there's a lot of finger pointing at different generational demographics here over something that's structural to Reddit.

Stupidly big forums + up/down votes dictating what actually gets seen is a recipe for dunking, sarcasm, and generally shitty behaviour.

Onces there's more people in a community than people can actually remember the name/pfp of, then other members stop being people and start being either an audience or cannon fodder. Couple that with the fact that people love a good snarky comment or rhetorical thrashing, and that leaves busy spaces as prime real estate for smack talk showdown.

On top of that, there's simply the fact that anyone not trying too hard to get noticed just doesn't get heard at all. Taking the time to post something thoughtful when literally no one is going to see it is a fool's errand, and not worth anybody's time. So, you either waste your time and become increasingly embittered, or you don't, and just say vapid but snappy bullshit.

Then there's the fact that moderators are overwhelmed by groups that large, and will default to mental self-defense by doing things like banning without warning, not being transparent, not attempting deescalation, etc. This creates a gulf between the community and the community managers, which furthers the dehumanizing dynamics (and leads to people seeing moderators as power tripping narcissists, rather than tired and fed up people).

We simply didn't evolve to empathize with, listen to, or manage 600,000 people at once. We did, however, evolve to try to win popularity contests and define in-groups and out-groups.

So, back 15 years ago or so, most people who wanted to discuss topics on the internet, and who didn't want that discussion to be ephemeral, found forums dedicated to those topics.

There were thousands of forums. Millions of them. Some had dozens of users, while others had 10s of thousands. Many of them discussed similar topics.

Browning Lemmy or kbin is like browsing thousands and thousands of subforums across dozens of websites. Some of those websites have similar subforums, but they might be populated by very different people having very different customs and discussions.

Reddit kind of pushed everyone into a single room, and in a single room only the loudest people get heard. Hundreds of thousands or millions of subscribers just leaves most people shouting into the void, having no meaningful conversations, and rewarding performative antagonism and biting sarcasm.

You know, toxic shit.

The best thing to do with multiple communities here is find one that you like best, and engage with it. If there's something actually interesting going on in one of the other ones, trust someone to cross-post it. Some of these communities may not take root and grow, but some will, and they'll each take on their own flavour, and serve their members, not the machine.

Have you considered just forcing everyone to access your sites via Internet Explorer 5.5?

Wow, you're running lemmy.world, mastodon.world, and calckey.world for 1200 EUR/month? Thtat's kind of incredible. Lemmy.world says you have about 28k MAU (I assume that's posting/commenting, not just logged-in users?), and mastodon.world says 37k active users (is that daily, weekly, or monthly?) So, that's 65k active users (out of 200k-300k accounts) at 1.8 cents/month each.

The costs of community owned social media are even less than I had pictured.

just someone using the term to mean “young people”

Rude. How dare they stop using "Millennial" to mean "young people". They weren't supposed to recognize that some of us are in our 40s now!

Or, we could acknowledge that a populace educated in enriching educational topics is a huge net benefit to society, and we don't do that.

Let people pay for business school, or other bullshit that only benefits private interests.

This.

The headline is kind of awful - users finding satiation and logging off to do something else is not a sign that users had an unsatisfactory or suboptimal experience. Maybe they actually enjoy the experience more.

But it's not optimizing for Meta's business goals.

Anything that lands on Meta's servers is open for Meta's use, however they see fit. Providing free training data for their algorithms just isn't something everyone here is ok with.

Many of us are here consciously because we're anti-corporate exploitation, not merely because our previous hangout spot fucked around, and Meta is king shit of corporate exploitation, and we want nothing to do with anything that's helping them.

Bingo.

They said -- out loud, with words, as well as with actions -- that they neither trust nor respect us. Many of them installed tracking software on remote hardware so that they could be alerted if employees took their hands off of their mouses long enough to even think, because if we're not living in their own panopiticons, they think we're all trying to fuck them over.

Which, to me, is the admission that they're actively and consciously trying to fuck us over.

They're not upset today that RTO hampered "productivity", because they don't care about that. They were, and are, willing to pay the price in order to physically lord themselves over people. What they regret is that people quit, and they've struggled to hire, and those that they have interviewed have made demands of them -- like higher wages, or to be able to work remotely.

They regret the feeling that they lost power when attempting to reassert it.

I think it makes entry into the EU easier, but they're receiving headwinds on two fronts there. There's no need for them to implement federation if they can't overcome the other regulatory hurdles first.

I see very few memes and far too much political content

Where are you even looking? My timeline is flooded with memes all the damn time. They're practically drowning out any posts of value at this point.

“If you want me back, you value me,” Sucher told Insider.

Wow, I know business schools are filled with out of touch simps for the ownership class, but I still wasn't prepared for this line.

Like, what was the message that was sent with the layoff? And how does it colour the interpretation of everything else? What good is being "valued" by the ownership class today when it means absolutely nothing for you tomorrow?

It speaks volumes, really, that she thinks being valued by a business - whose goals are explicitly to siphon wealth that workers create into the hands of owners - is something we should feel good about.

For the people who make their living owning property, having people do most of the labour for free is the best deal possible, and they still couldn't make a profit, or a useful mobile app, or an actually engaging website.

Somehow, after almost 20 years, Reddit still doesn't have an actual value proposition for its product. Everything worth anything is found in its users. And those assholes are going to walk away with massive money bags for it (even if those bags will probably now be somewhat smaller than they would have been had they not just repeatedly stepped in shit and licked their shoes clean).

Wow, the number of comments that are just "oh, yeah, these are great, I have one" is... Wow...

No wonder you guys are fucked. Too many of y'all are spending your time supporting shit like this when you could be screaming about single payer, like the rest of the developed world has.

If you want like 10,000 instant karma, bet on a New post and say snarky shit. If it gets picked to be one of the magic posts of the day, you win.

Just don't say anything meaningful, or you'll fall below the next person commenting for the lulz.

That's what a healthy community looks like. Right?

Yeah. The Bidens are safe. The assailant is under arrest. Nobody's dog got shot.

It's obvious why this is a confusing outcome.