Rakn

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Comparing a web forum to a medium article with people commenting under it. It looks like that person has little grasps on why Reddit or the likes are being used.

No one is using comments on sites like Medium to discuss anything. The comments there are always low quality from people that have no clue. You find that on Reddit as well. But the threading and voting systems kind of accounts for that.

These aggregators are a site to discuss what’s written on medium. They aren’t a replacement and vice versa.

Weird person that came to this conclusion. Imagine stop using forums. What would be lost. One person writing a medium article couldn’t replace that wealth of information.

I’m not on lemmy.world, but I’d just like to say that im always sad when I see communities using Discord for communication. It’s the exact opposite of lemmy. And if one considers the current Reddit measures as harsh, they are pretty soft compared to Discords stance on such matters. Information that goes in there is basically lost. So go the entire way with Matrix.

It’s weird how different these feeds are. I only have posts about people asking about these beans posts. But no beans posts themselves whatsoever.

Yeah. That feels more likely. Twitter has been running for years and likely isn’t a stranger to something like this.

Haha. Why though? What's the point?

Out of the frying pan into the fire I guess.

Kinda sad they didn’t settle for something like Lemmy, but at the same time happy that they realize the value of a forum and didn’t just move to Discord.

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This comparison doesn’t make sense to me. If the person then makes money off it: yes.

Otherwise the question would be if copyright law should be abolished entirely. E.g. if I create a new news portal with content copied form other source, would that be okay then?

You are comparing a computer program to a human. Which… is weird.

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But you would still need an authority that can unilaterally make changes to these ownership records. People die, things get lost, stuff happens. So it can't all be based on signing with private keys of individual persons. At that point: Why not run a central database of it all. It's cheaper, more efficient and you could still publish a public record for traceability.

I really don't see any problem that Blockchain could solve better than other solutions. Except Cryptocurrency.

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How would such a system be more efficient? That is very counter intuitive. In addition the question would be who pays for PeerTube. Because unlike Mastodon or Lemmy and the likes, storing large amounts of video files is actually damn expensive.

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Isn’t that something the bigger companies would also probably love to have? Because it creates an invisible barrier to entry at a certain scale.

No actually we don't. Chromium isn't a reference implementation. And while XHTML was handled poorly the idea behind it was actually very interesting. Didn't pan out and was buried years ago. So what.

One thing though: I’m likely not to stop and consider looking closer at an app if I can’t judge if it’s going to be what I’m looking for. I’m not going to go over random GitHub repositories and create screenshots for their projects. So if the assumption is that the user contributes screenshots I don’t think it will ever change anything for the majority of projects.

Might be a fundamental difference in opinion. I don’t see us anywhere near anything related to artificial life.

What they’ve built there is a product, a computer program and they used other folks data to build it without getting their permission. I also cannot go and just copy and paste source code from all over the internet to build my program. There are licenses attached to it that determine what you can or can’t do with it.

I feel like just because the term “learning” is involved people no longer view it as simply building or programming a system. Which it is.

But there is no one learning from it. It serves as a building block / source material to build these LLMs. I feel like the fact that it’s called learning gives folks the impression that it’s similar to what a human would do.

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This comment captures it in my opinion. I feel like the entire post here is trying to sell something that most folks don’t really care about, failing to see why people are upset about it (rightfully so or not). A lot of theory that fails short in practice.

I understand why the admins did it. It’s relatable. But it should equally easily be understandable why some users don’t like it. “It’s a federation, visit a community with 5 members instead of 20k” isn’t the most helpful advice.

Nah. I don’t think it’s an education issue. E.g. I do understand how it works, but see defederation as the nuclear option. As a user in a federated system I don’t care where the communities are hosted that I frequent. As long as it works. That’s the entire point of federation. Otherwise we could just remove federation all together and have everyone create a separate account per instance.

I get where the beehaw admins are coming from and it’s understandable. But it’s not good and chips away at what Lemmy is and could be.

This is one instance now where this happened and I’m not on either of these instances, so I’m unaffected. But if I see more of these defederations (no matter where), the Signal it sends me is that for my needs I likely still have to bet on Reddit and at max this will become an occasional visit.

We are still far away from this point. Just saying. And a normal user can’t be expected to understand it or relate to it. It’s bad UX if they have to. Arguing for them to be educated about it is nice in theory, but misses in reality of how things just are.

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I wish they would make their configuration better. At this point even MacOS easier in that regard. And that is saying something. I constantly find myself googling how to open the old configuration pages because it’s either impossible to find where some of the configuration options went or they don’t exist on the new UIs in the first place. It’s a real down grade. They are trying to go the MacOS route but stopped half way through. Windows 11 feels like a real downgrade compared to Windows 10.

That sounds like a very naive view on part of that developer. He probably never heard of Microsoft’s „Embrace, extend, and extinguish“ approach. This is going to be similar with Facebook. They have a lot more resources than all current instances combined and can provide a much better user experience. They are going to be the main instance on the federated network slowly starting to extend it and support features others lack. Making it a unique selling point until it’s too late.

And that’s not even looking at the moral/ethical standpoint of getting involved with Meta.

Next problem is surge pricing and general ticket prices. I recall one city I was living in a few years back having advertisements for taking the train. And I was like “Yeah sure. It’s just double the price and triple the time”.

To me taking the train (at least for long distances) is a luxury thing.

I think that might be a narrow view though. Most of the world likely doesn’t use SMS anymore (for probably a decade). So removing SMS didn’t make much of a difference there, but increased security. Especially when people are used to use multiple apps anyways.

So the better analogy would be “imagine if gopher and http needed separate browsers”. Except they do.

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It also depends on what you develop. Web based software isn't web based software. I develop web based software as well and close to half of that is spent in a terminal. With WSL2 it became bearable under Windows. But still not as nice as on a Unix based device.

I know folks that never leave their IDE for their job. And they probably don't care much about the underlying OS. But that isn't what my job looks like or that of the folks around me. So if someone told me it doesn't matter I know they've only seen a small bubble of what web development is or can be.

Except for OP. Who seems to be hostile on purpose and doesn't look like he wants to have any help on the first place. Super weird dynamic.

My main concern with companies like Lenovo or Asus building such devices on Windows is support. I have more trust in Valve to do this right.

Oh I still remember the outrage when Android added support for allowing Carries to block this a few years ago. But the Google folks just said „works as intended“ and proceeded.

Yeah and most people have USB-C chargers nowadays. It will just get rid of other connector forms and going forward unify it. It’s awesome.

If you are a heavy Apple user that might be annoying for you. But in the gran scheme of things that’s the minority.

Scaling monoliths still works fine though. Microservices are first and foremost an answer to an organizational problem, not a technical one. There is a very high chance that if you are doing microservices with less than 20 people, or let’s say even 50 people, you are doing it wrong.

Microservices introduce a ton of overhead in engineering effort required, which needs to be balanced with the benefit they provide.

Scaling shouldn’t be the first and only reason for doing microservices.

I've bought one and sent it back again. I felt like I'm not utilizing most of the space since I had to move my head too much to see windows on either side.

I'm now using two 4k Screens. In in the middle and one to the side, but rotates by 90 degrees. Can recommend that. Though for gaming... I can imagine it there.

Personal preference I guess.

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It feels like you are making a computer program out to be more than it actually is right now. At the same time this all isn’t about what that program is doing. It’s about how it was built.

I think if this is what Lemmy is intended for it’s sad and will always a niche thing. I refuse to believe that this is what Lemmy is aiming for.

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It’s all about content and diversity. Without a huge number of users you won’t get all these niche communities that one loves Reddit for.

Where is the active plant doctor community? Where are the folks from different professions weighting in with their opinion?

The Fediverse could exist with 5 users. But it would be boring. It just now crossed a threshold where one could hope that if becomes something.

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It’s also about the people though. Been living in the south for some time. Hard to talk to people, even harder to make friends, very rural for the most part. I even would describe a city like Stuttgart as rural. At work people approached me and said „hey you also aren’t from the south right? I noticed“ and were happy to have someone to chitchat with.

Just my own experience... I’m very happy to have made the decision to move away again.

Maybe it’s easy if one isn’t a German since there are kind of expat communities? I don’t know.

These sound more like publicity stunts than anything else. There isn't really much value in running a private Blockchain. At that point it lost all value a Blockchain would provide. Who are you protecting yourself against?

Well. When I copy and paste source code into my program and compile it it also doesn’t retain the actual code. It’s still not allowed.

If I on the other hand read source code, remember and reapply it in a sort of similar way later on then that’s totally fine. But that’s not what OpenAI did there. There wasn’t a human involved that read the articles and then used that knowledge to adjust the LLM.

There question i would have is where is the line there? Does that mean that as soon as there is some automated process that uses the data it’s fine?

E.g. could I have a script that reads all NYT articles, extracts interesting information and provides them in a different format to users?

Kinda? I mean at least by European standards Democrats are kinda conservative. Not necessarily right wing, but also not left.

What value does Blockchain provide here? It feels like none whatsoever.

Well. Of course they are currently good to PC players. They want to take over a large chunk of the market after all.

The new food delivery business local to me has also been giving me a lot of subsidized delivery options. Until they run out of money or own a large chunk of the market that is.

GamePass for me actually ends up being more expensive. The majority of games on there aren't really good games or one I'd like to play. So once we approach a subscription only model I'll have to pay 15 money per month to just play that one game I like.

Not sure if you are joking or not. But at times that's actually what I think about and sometimes even do. If there is a car with too bright lights coming down the road I'll turn on the high beams because it reduces my ability to see the road otherwise.

Yeah but these examples are all bigger than Google. The fediverse irrelevant in comparison. Additionally at least Linux doesn’t have such a strong network effect, since it’s not a social network. I mean I’m going to let myself be surprised. But I kinda doubt that anything good will come from it.

The Meta business side isn’t nice folks that try to do good in general.

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My assumption was based on the idea to have a proper YouTube replacement. Not some run down video storage for a hand full of large content creators that can afford it.

  • The scalability you buy via P2P also means an increased storage. So if you want to offer a similar platform that is used in a similar way then you probably would need a multiple of the current storage capacity that YouTube offers. Likely close to an exabyte of storage (assuming that YouTube has just about 300 petabytes. Which likely is a lower number by now.)
  • Especially for the amount of users consuming the content you would need a good distribution factor. Popular content would need to be distribution over thousands of peers for it to kinda work out. So a lot of people could share the necessary video data, making the storage a problem.
  • Big servers in a datacenter will always be more efficient because they are designed to be compared to consumer hardware. It's like replacing a central power plant with a small power plant per home. It won't deliver the same efficiency and is a waste of resources. Ecologically speaking.

creators already store their content locally

A lot of creators delete at least the raw footage because they don't have enough space and it would be too expensive. One creator hosting their own content wouldn't even begin to scale in such a scenario. They would need powerful hardware and serious network connectivity. Something the large creators probably could afford, but most couldn't.

peertube can run on rather old tech so I’d say it’s more efficient.

Especially old tech is less efficient than current generations.

I mean usually if these systems are well architected and have enough head room they will just continue to run. It becomes problematic if you introduce change and don’t know them well. Change is the biggest factor leading to incidents.