RunAwayFrog

@RunAwayFrog@sh.itjust.works
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Joined 12 months ago

Not audiophilic enough.

ffmpeg -i in.flac -ar 48000 \
            -af aresample=resampler=soxr:precision=28:cheby=1:dither_method=shibata \
            -c:a libopus -b:a 224k out.opus
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Search is broken in Reddit right now (for me at least). Best part is, it doesn't always report an error, just pretends there are no results.

Oh, and Reddit Status doesn't know yet.

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keep in mind that it’s hard to get real numbers on LDAC because decoding is proprietary

I used to think the same. But as it turns out, a decoder exists. Maybe some people don't want anyone to know about it to keep the myths alive ;)

EDIT: Also, as a golden rule, whenever anyone sees the words High-Res in an audio context, they should immediately realize that they are being bullshitted.

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Don't know if this will be relevant at all, but I'm almost hoping this will force Lemmy devs to abandon the obscure markdown crate they use for pulldown-cmark.

Using an obscure markdown implementation just because it supports spoiler tags always sounded like a silly decision to me!

Sort by "best" is coming to Lemmy, in case you didn't know.

LDAC claims are completely bullshit.

LC3plus is worse than AAC quality wise (to be expected). Lower latency is the only thing going for it. And that's just because AAC is a very high-latency codec. Opus (as a format) would win on both fronts, although there could be issues with creating a high-quality encoder for it that is not too complex, and power-efficient.

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Broken input sanitization probably.

Issue will thankfully no longer exist in the next lemmy release.

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I do think it is the future of filesharing

In internet years, Torrenting is old. I2P is old. Even torrenting in I2P is old. Nothing about this is "the future".

Ideally, the future of file sharing would involve a fully/natively integrated anonymous network with content-addressable distributed filesystem.

But this will probably not happen, as that architecture didn't see large scale success before, except in Japan where at least some elements of this architecture are used in their popular P2P networks.

The I2P crowd themselves tried with Tahoe-LAFS, but that was never really a network, even aMule over I2P had more traction, and by traction I mean tens or hundreds of users, not thousands or beyond.

Ironically, the one content-addressable distributed filesystem that gained some attraction (outside Japan) is IPFS, which doesn't offer anonymity, or replication, or anything special really. Yet for some reason, some hype-susceptible techies liked it, together with the NFT crowd, a great fit.

The future of file sharing will depend on where most content will land where it will be easily accessible and quickly grabbable. How those networks will look like? Nobody knows.

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Your information is a few years outdated. lineageOS neither comes rooted, nor does it offer a native way to root anymore. Magisk became a thing with a whole community around it. It's an unlocked bootloader hider, root manager (and hider), and a system patcher, all wrapped up in one tool.

With Magisk, you give root access to the apps that need it, hide root ability from apps that require non-root devices (those apps do that by pretending to need root). Also, the Magisk app can rename itself, which is important as some apps check against the name itself.

The future challenge is with Google trying to force hardware identification (Apple style). I have not been following developments regarding that though, since as others mentioned, my X years old phone is still serving me perfectly, and I have no intention to upgrade any time soon.

Lemmy instance choice does not check out ;)

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I'm not talking about inherent brokenness that was always there.

There is a specific search with a non-dictionary word, and limited to specific sub, that always worked, but it's not working right now, returning zero results. Reddit search is fully broken right now (except for finding sub names if you don't limit the search to a sub).

Problem is still persisting btw. And Reddit Status still reporting no problems.

Because the audiophile is broke, and will have to listen to some music on a lowly device, but the craving for some placebo is still there.

EDIT: btw, the bitrate is missing a k in your command 😉

Just as the other user said, using YouTube Audio for this stuff is the way to go.

Just look for <Artist Name> - Topic channels and check the playlists (not the uploads). You should find full albums uploaded directly by copyright holders. Use a VPN if you don't find anything. Sometimes stuff from your region will not be available in your region, but available if you appear to be somewhere else ;)

Also, if we are going old style P2P, and not using torrents for some reason (RuTracker deserves a special mention), then DC++ should come before SoulseekQT/Nicotine+ anyway.

Mostly lossless grabs from torrents + YouTube Audio (edit: using yt-dlp), and you have a selection with guaranteed high quality*. Definitely better than whatever scattered MP3s in SoulseekQT/Nicotine+

* Opus@150kbits/s is transparent, except for some killer samples heard by a trained ear.

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YouTube has audio in Opus format@~150kbit/s. Opus is a much better format than MP3. Almost all audio is completely transparent at that bitrate, where with MP3s, there are cases where audio is not transparent without using non standard >320kbit/s bitrates (a lot of content is transparent @320kbits/s though).

Now, sites/tools like the one you mentioned take the Opus (or AAC) file/stream from YouTube, and lossily re-encodes it again, probably to a file that is larger than the original, with at best the same quality, but probably worse quality. You obviously can't get better output than the input in lossy compression.

So, the disk space argument is weird if you can play Opus/AAC (should be playable on every device nowadays).

This is the valid part for why you shouldn't use YT-to-MP3 converters.

But there are also invalid reasons why people will tell you it's shit:

  • They think all MP3s sound like the shit ones from a decade (or two, or three) ago, using low bitrates and/or created with shit encoders. In reality, not all MP3s sound like shit, but vigilance is needed at every encoding step, as is the case with all lossy conversions.
  • They are conflating the quality of the conversion, with the quality of the source, and think the bad quality of some user-uploaded YouTube content is due to the lossy conversion done by YouTube, and/or the MP3 converter re-encoding from YouTube. Content uploaded by the copyright holders (assuming basic competence) does not have that problem at all.
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Good, because I speak Rust, so, if there is an itch to scratch, I will scratch it, even though I'm not a UI guy.

I tried running the UI yesterday standalone and had 'error loading' message or something like that.

btw, mentioning needing '../lemmy' available in path, and needing the wasm target installed (via rustup target install wasm32-unknown-unknown) may help non-rustaceans in particular, if added to the contributing instructions.

Also, the UI was listening on *:1237, not just localhost, so maybe a WARNING regarding that is advisable, together with explaining the purpose behind leptos also listening to port 3001.

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Imagine if media in Lemmy was all hosted in a distributed network filesystem like Iroh, where instances only function as inserters and exit nodes for that media.

This way, smaller instances can have a smaller cache corresponding to the media that was actually needed by it (recently). And independent peers can help by participating in the distributed file-system network without running instances themselves.

From a technical point of view, I'd rather Lemmy didn't federate except with itself, and maybe possibly also with similar networks, but only as long as that doesn't hold Lemmy back from doing its own thing.

Getting ActivityPub federation to work reliably between Lemmy instances alone is already proving challenging for developers.

From a personal point of view, I have zero interest in what I consider a shit paradigm of social communication. The "micro" lie in micro-blogging, as you quickly conceded, is long gone. The interface is horrible for effective exchange of well-thought ideas. The social networks formed are hypernormalized echo chambers of unhinged ranting faux intellectuals and champagne activists, usually led by a cult of personality or two who are tasked with making sure the one-upping posturing game continues forever.

When you are about to "micro"blog, presumably you will be writing something coherent enough that it relates to a certain subject of interest to a section of the public. It is also presumably meant to be viewable by the public since you're not sharing it in a private group chat.

If that's the case, there should be a community in Lemmy where those interested in that subject congregate. That community would either be low-traffic, then you can make your "micro"blog a post there breathing more live into it. Or it would be a high-traffic one, in that case a lounge/chat/MegaThread post should exist where you can chat with people interested in that subject, in an interface that actually facilitates good discussion.

Will there be a way to run the UI in client mode only, without being attached to a running instance?

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Besides being overhyped basic tech where way more useful and practical solutions existed for decades (Freenet existed since year 2000 btw, and Tahoe-LAFS since 2007), there is nothing private about IPFS. This is a dangerous message to purport.

IPFS is as practically useful as NFTs. No wonder the two crowds connected well!

iroh is an attempt to create a useful and practical IPFS. But none of the bigger practical features is implemented yet. And the design itself doesn't appear to be finalized. I'm willing to give iroh a chance, although the close proximity to the IPFS crowd doesn't fill one with confidence.

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While it may seem nice

No, it really doesn’t, its a horribly bad design choice.

I wanted to give some balance to my argument. I guess I was over-cautious with that one.

Yes. That was what I'm alluding to when I wrote:

that architecture didn’t see large scale success before, except in Japan

Perfect Dark is a major network in Japan. Freenet is a network most people in the globe are not aware of. Hell, Perfect Dark may have a larger Japanese user-base than Freenet's global one.

It's worth mentioning that the former leader of the Freenet project wasn't the most competent. Combine that with him spending years trying (and failing) to cater to the needs of imaginary dictatorships' defectors (anyone of them using Freenet instead of Tor is the imaginary part), instead of focusing on maximizing the reliability and performance of the network to help its actual users. So it's not just the ignorance of the masses that was at fault. The default FN user experience was often a horrible one. And users needed to ignore the officially-recommended microblog/forum applications, and even use a patched FN version, to get a decent performance out of the network.

Anyway, Freenet is the past and the present. And as I wrote in the parent comment, I hope a Freenet-like network would become a major success in the future, but I'm not holding my hopes up.

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@dessalines@lemmy.ml

And btw, that's '../lemmy' in the comment above with two dots. I didn't write it wrong. The third dot comes from markdown-it (confirmed using their live demo)!!

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Soulseek is an old-style P2P network. It has nothing to do with my parent comment. I personally don't use it (see my other comments in this thread).

If you want to grab a non-reencoded file from YouTube, you can use a tool like yt-dlp

# see what formats are available for a YT vid
yt-dlp -F <youtube-url>
# format 251 is usually available as the highest quality Opus format
yt-dlp -f 251 <youtube-url>

That last command should grab you an Opus stream in WEBM format.

If you're not a CLI guy, others should be able to give you a good GUI recommendation.

and for testing you get a wackload of SBCs and Bluetooth chips and test that

I asked because I wasn't aware of any consumer buds supporting Opus. I wasn't aware of PineBuds, thank you for mentioning them.

their live demo

I meant the markdown-it live demo.

I wrote a separate post about this.

Would you have escaped them a priori?

Do you consider markdown-it's typographic replacements common knowledge, and thus intuitively escapable?

Should lemmy apps be pushed to use markdown-it, in your opinion?

I won't be able to fully replace it, I'm afraid. Not before communities gain the ability for their posts to not show up in high traffic feeds.

Some subreddits I follow have this set, but this is not yet implemented in Lemmy if I'm not mistaken. So a workable move to Lemmy for them is not possible at this moment.

Or “Hyphanet” as it’s now called.

wtf, I missed that news.

There is no need to talk about an imaginary version of IPFS. GNUnet already exists. You can add that to the list of actually superior technologies that long predates IPFS.

As I mentioned, IPFS is nothing but very basic tech that got overhyped to junior/uninformed developers, and crypto scam victims.

After testing LC3Plus, Opus, and AAC personally for bluetooth, LDAC claims are BS

How did you test Opus for bluetooth?

latency is significantly better then AAC (tested against libfdk) and marginally better then opus

In case you didn't know, you can use 10ms (or even 5ms) frames with Opus instead of the default (20ms). 10ms should roughly match LC3plus's default latency while still retaining high quality.

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I only use(d) it in a specific way. For example searching for a sport club (non-dictionary) name, limiting the search to that sport's sub, and sorting by new).

For general search, a search engine would indeed probably work much better.


Problem found and solved according to Reddit Status btw, and confirmed by my own tests.

What hubs are you recommending that are better than Soulseek?

I hardly use DC++ anymore. I mentioned it because I didn't find anything unique about Soulseek when I tried it last a few years ago. But I did grab plenty of classical music in lossless format from DC++, using public hubs.

So, it's the "are better than Soulseek?" part of the question that intrigues me. What's good about Soulseek? For lossless collections, it doesn't (didn't?) have much. For lossy stuff? There are better (in selection, availability, and quality) places to grab lossy files from (e.g. YouTube). And Torrents (with or without DC++) would probably have you covered there too anyway.

That is/was my experience with all these platforms/networks. I'm open to learn something new if I'm missing something.

The codec is basic, uses decades-old tech, and was trivially REed.

When have you ever found anything you were looking for with it?

Always.