And this is how you gut the Fediverse.... Don't even give people the option to run their own single-user instance to avoid the drama. Defederate them, too. Splinter everything into oblivion.
EDIT: Seriously. As someone who isn't a hardcore militant FOSS federation activist, this is the kind of stuff that makes me want to throw up my hands and say, "Screw it. I guess I'll go sign up at Threads."
So... The Twitter replacement is getting used like Twitter, by people (and brands) who bailed from Twitter?
Surprised face.
I'll say it again...
Threads is a MASTODON-type app. Not Lemmy... Mastodon!
I truly don't understand people in the Lemmy-sphere getting their panties in a bunch over this.
As long as we can keep up the content here, this has replaced Reddit for me.
The Connect for Reddit app is much more enjoyable to use than the official Reddit app. Heck, I even like it better than I did Sync for Reddit.
Well, crap. This feels like the first sign that the app is going to die when it doesn't get enough money out of this price hike.
What's a good open alternative?
I feel like the real headline here is that active users are about 8x what they were a month ago.
It's certainly a nice app, but I've also grown attached to Connect over these last few weeks. I even donated to the dev, which is something my stingy ass never does.
While I loved Sync, I'm not paying $20/yr for any social media. If I recall, Sync Pro for Reddit was something like $5-6 lifetime. I'd pay that again without blinking an eye.
Just looking at my list of subscribed communities.... There are a lot on lemmy.ml.
They're toast if Mali yoinks the domain name.
This seems really, really bad for Lemmy....
The renewals.... That's where they getcha...
Unfortunately, I'm just seeing a wave of "here's my Bluesky account" tweets from the few holdouts I still followed on Twitter.
That's cool and all, Mr/Ms Internet Celebrity, but none of us peasants have access to that site.
Iâm not a fan of the âcommunityâ aspect of much of the Fediverse. I have more than one interest. My entire persona isnât just one thing. I donât want to log in to a different account every time I want to talk about something different.
I just join a generic-ass instance (mas.to on Mastodon, lemmy.world on Lemmy), and follow the stuff that actually interests me. (hashtags & a couple users on Mastodon; communities on Lemmy)
Following literally everything that gets farted into an entire instance is just drinking from a firehose.
But have you actually tried it? Here's a sample. Go take a look. (EDIT: My link is worthless unless you are logged in to mas.to. Go look up username fediverse@lemmy.world in your Mastodon client of choice)
It's a completely unmanageable firehose of comments, spewed only in chronological order.
Honestly, the link between incompatible types of social media like Lemmy and Mastodon could be severed in my opinion, because it's mostly just novel with little benefit.
It just takes a really long time to restore from those backups. And weirdly, they're scattered all over the place...
"Ma'am... this is an Arby's."
Threads is not a Lemmy issue. Mastodon is where the concern lies.
I don't know about everyone else here, but my social media use involves me actively trying to avoid The Algorithmâ˘. I subscribe specifically to what I want to see, and actively avoid everything else. You can't do this in the Threads app. So this is why I'll be using Trunks or Megalodon over the Threads client.
Every social media platform, UseNet, BBS, and forum -- and the planet Earth itself -- has had it's clique of garbage idiots, off in a corner, doing garbage idiot things. They're inevitable. They're even here on the Fediverse -- in our own precious instances -- already. If you don't engage them -- don't follow that person you hate the most, or sub to the community that stands for everything you hate -- things are actually pretty nice. All of this defederation talk feels extremely short-sighted, and is just going to torpedo the Mastodon platform we've started to come to enjoy.
If anything, the public declarations of political & social allegiances via choice of instance could just torpedo it all, and attract the trolling idiots like flies. But, we've already opened up that can of worms.
I swear they said they wouldn't be doing this deal ever again.
Actually nice to see they lied...
Yep. On one hand, I'd be super-concerned if Reddit decided they were federating with Lemmy. Reddit would create /c's on their instance for all of their /r's and completely torpedo all of the existing Lemmy communities.
Mastodon is just users though. You don't generally see users in your feed unless you actively follow them -- or if you decide to drink from the firehose and go look at the All feed. And it's not like Meta can "take over" Mastodon hashtags like Reddit could take over communities. Hashtags are server agnostic.
And unless you sign up on their server, I honestly don't see how Meta can pilfer more data than they already can by just scraping public servers.
Just please don't let Meta diddle the ActivityPub protocols. They need to adapt to the protocols. Nobody should be adapting the protocols to them.
Follow #hashtags, my friend.
That's the easiest way to find people with interests like your own.
How exactly is Threads going to EEE Lemmy?
I can totally see arguing this re: Mastodon. But there are some serious hoops that need to be jumped through for a user to even be able to see Mastodon-type content as a Lemmy post. Doing Mastodon on Lemmy feels like eating soup with a fork. You can technically do it with enough time and effort, but should you?
Pitchfork mobs going after Lemmy admins because they haven't already blocked Threads makes me think that maybe the mob doesn't really know what it is they're against, besides just "corporations bad".
If you're looking for the exact same celebrities you followed on Twitter, you're going to be let down.
If you follow hashtags instead, there's a lot to like. In a sense, Mastodon almost seems more Reddit/Lemmy-like, in the fact that content is more discoverable by topic instead of person.
Probably why they're sending out emails right now saying they're transitioning to mandatory 2FA...
Why? Because I don't expect a person who's not entrenched in a specific hobby to understand the ins-and-outs of that hobby?
It's not condescension. It's setting reasonable expectations.
Yeah, the forced algorithm is the worst.
Here's my extremely unpopular opinion... Because they're eventually Fediverse'ing, if you actually wanted to follow some of those brands/celebrities/orgs/etc, you could do so with a non-Threads Mastodon client and completely excise The Algorithm.
But, let's just defederate instead, I guess, and remove that option.
I dunno. I just stumbled on a movement to push instance owners to defederate any instance that doesn't defederate Threads.
This seems very much in the vein of dictatorialism / authoritarianism. It's honestly just gross. This whole "you're either with us or against us" tribalism is what has made social media so awful these last several years.
I thought I'd be able to roll with the Reddit Android app. But, man, it's rough. All of the fonts are way too tiny, and navigation can be a giant jankfest at times.
I might still roll by Reddit on a fullsize PC monitor on the web. Or I might not. Kind of depends on if Lemmy totally buckles under the server pressure over the next week or two.
Also normies is a ridiculous elitist term
I just think it acknowledges that we're abnormal in how we're approaching all of this.
Yes, I know.. But there's no need for Meta to extinguish Mastodon if we do it ourselves?
I mean, the entire map is already there in RDR2.
But.... Do we really expect Threads users to make their Mastodon-type tweets even show up on Reddit-style Lemmy?
Threads is a Mastodon analog.
Reddit is a Lemmy analog.
There are no Threads communities!
But imagine if 95% of everyone you know used the evil crappy corporate email, and not the super-utiopian one.
Because both are "free", the reality is that almost everyone will use the email that actually lets them email other people.
Honestly, I'm kind of bummed that so many people are stomping their feet and saying they don't want the big guy to find their little cabin in the woods.
If mas.to -- where I signed up for Mastodon -- defederates Threads, I'm just going to lose access to the vast population that will simply use that easiest means of joining the Fediverse.
Defederating is just going to chase droves of people off independent servers and into the arms of Zuck.
Mastodon migration is still somewhat limited.
Your posts don't transfer over, being the big catch.
(Most everything else does, though)
On Lemmy, individual people don't really matter that much. You're following topics & communities.
You can technically do the same on Mastodon, but the weird stigma people just can't shake against #hashtags hinders it somewhat. Like it or not, Mastodon/Twitter/Threads-type content -- much like email -- is very person-focused.
They're already over 2 million in like 2 hours.
Right. This will basically make nearly every /c live in .world as all of the .ml /c's go defunct. That, or Beehaw, which is walled off from everyone else.
(Side note.. my work's firewalls block everything *.ml -- and that's the only thing that saved me from creating my account there)
The 3 options are just shortcuts. You can type in any server you want.
Imgur is preparing to wipe old uploads that aren't linked to an account...
In my case, that's pretty much every image I ever uploaded to Reddit using Sync for Reddit.
Ew. I bet it's filled with nerds. Like me.
(Also, my wife probably wouldn't be thrilled if I used this.)
EDIT: Dang it, Lemmy. This post is 2 years old.
Or....
"Normie" shows a hint of self awareness that the people on this platform aren't representative of the general public. We're a bunch of tech weirdos.
We're the "abnormies".