SinAdjetivos

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deal with illegals

You mean be the one putting them in cages? Running the concentration camps immigrant detention centers? Using their legal status as leverage for the modern equivalent of indentured servitude?

It turns out people aren't very nice when they're being abused.

champagne communists

So let's stop speaking in euphemisms. When you say "illegals" that is explicitly genocidal language, little different than the usual 'insects', 'vermin', etc.

So why don't we just kill them all? Just set up a militarized zone on the border and shoot anything that moves?

That's the point...

You might reconsider based on which one has more ability/incentive to affect you

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Fingers crossed this stuff galvanizes people to realize that voting is, at best, a temporary stopgap and they will need to be a bit more active in the whole political process. What happened to the riots that were promised if Roe vs. Wade was overturned? When the Democrats fall in lockstep with the far right extremists how will you hold them accountable?

Though this'd also likely lead to far right extremists ramping up their violence as they feel themselves losing power.

That is what overturning Roe vs. Wade is about. The parent article is a story of far right extremists ramping up their violence as American empire loses power. Is your plan to vote that away? It hasn't worked for the last 40+ years.

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There's a specific model for stable diffusion called riffusion that does an okay job. If you want to play with it I recommend downloading the automatic 1111 client and installing it from the "plugins" tab.

Except that's not even how most bus systems work because most of them are majority funded by taxes with fares originally meant to serve as a stopgap but then slowly converted into a profit engine (usually after privitization). Fares are a way to gatekeep a service which your taxes already pay for, which I would argue, is by itself a form of theft.

As an example check out the latest MTA report only 26% of funding comes from fares, and that ones a bit in the higher end from what I've seen (NYC public transit, picked as the example a it's recently been in the news for issues with fare evasion)

All that aside, it's also worth noting that fare increases are extremely unpopular and it's not that easy to increase them without potential serious backlash (ie the mass protests in Chile a few years back that were in part set off by the fare hikes.)

  1. Propoganda is just as much about convincing you who/what the enemies are as it is about instilling nationalism.

  2. Your repeated use of the word "commie" tells me you're deeply steeped in a specific kind of American propoganda. Do you want help getting back to reality or are you happy where you're at?

Now look at labor participation rate.

From an article about a recent lawsuit

The App Store appeared to harvest information about every single thing you did in real time, including what you tapped on, which apps you search for, what ads you saw, and how long you looked at a given app and how you found it. The app sent details about you and your device as well, including ID numbers, what kind of phone you’re using, your screen resolution, your keyboard languages, how you’re connected to the internet—notably, the kind of information commonly used for device fingerprinting.

Notably, knowing keyboard language and monitoring tap locations allows for reconstruction of text the user types (as detailed in this article

I do think you are correct that Apple probably isn't actively keylogging every iOS device (just because there's easier ways with less legal concerns that ultimately get the same outcomes), but it's not like there's "no evidence".

Is the concern how you're perceived socially or how you perceive yourself?

What would it take for you to be "trans enough"? Shaving? Clothes? Hormones? Surgery? Gene therapy?

Would you be this gatekeep-y to a random stranger? If not, why gatekeep yourself?

Is it fear of rejection? Of not being accepted for presenting as your authentic self?

Does the label not communicate what you want to express, or does the label have connotations that don't align with your sense of self? Are those connotations commonly held, or are they negative stereotypes that you're unconsciously distancing yourself from?

Do you need a positive label to communicate who you are, or does a negative label suffice (IE. "trans" vs. "not cis")? Are labels a useful tool for you to describe yourself to others, or do you feel the need to conform to the label?

It's not, the underlying data is still just as biased. Taking a bunch of white people and saying they are "ethnically ambiguous" is just statistical blackface.

No, I think you just misunderstand what the propogandist's job is...

I partially agree with you, but I think you're missing the end goal of Facebook et al.

As HughJanus pointed out it's not really any different than a person reading a book and by that reasoning using copyrighted material to train models like these falls well within the existing framework of "fair use".

However, that depends entirely on "the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes." I agree completely with you that OpenAI's products/business (the most blatant violator) does easily violate "fair use" due to that clause. However they're doing it, at least partially, to "force the issue" on the open question of "how much can public information be privatized?" with the goal of further privatizing and increasing commercial applications of raw data.

As you pointed out LLMs can only create facsimiles and not the original work, and by that logic they can't exactly replicate the inputs either.

No I don't think artists can claim that they own any and all "cheap facsimiles" of their works, but by that same reasoning none of these models produced should be allowed to be the enforceable property of any individual/company either.

For further reading check out:

  • Kelly v. Arriba Soft Corporation on why "thumbnails" (and by extension LLMs, "eigen-images", etc.) are inherently transformatve and constitute fair use.
  • Bridgeport Music, Inc. v. Dimension Films for the negative impacts that ruling has had and how it still doesn't protect the artists from their stuff being used for training and LLM.
  • "Variational auto-encoders" for understanding on how the latest LLMs actually do achieve a significant amount of "originality" and I would argue are able to be minimally creative.

Likely contentious but my experience has been "newb" has a slight vocal raising to indicate light-heartedness, ie:

Noob: no͞ob Newb: nyo͞ob

You might get some better perspective by looking outside the "European" sphere.

You seem to have some similar thoughts to the author of the zine here.. An except:

European Anarchism is “1) A history of iconic figures. 2) A set of increasingly radical ideas about social transformation. 3) A practice that has only been uniform in its rejection by those in power.” And that it is also a dynamic politic that invites its very destruction yet maintains composure of core principles: Direct Action, Voluntary Association, and Mutual Aid.

You may also find some of Öcalan's writings interesting/enlightening.

"Why don't you want to compromise with the leopards? They don't want to kill you, just let them lick your nose a bit. That would be cute, right!?"

Yep! It's known as "The Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect".

Yes, dictatorships and monarchies sometimes have a petition process, but they tend only to pay lip service. Not because they care, they will do as they please becaue they have the power-- hence a dictatorship.

You're so close to getting it...

For healthy working relationships and solid infrastructure you under-promise and over-deliver.

For maximal profit and sustainable business models you over-promise and under-deliver.

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So... Just like probation?

The academic name for the field is quite literally "machine learning".

You are incorrect that these systems are unable to create/be creative, you are correct that creativity != consciousness (which is an extremely poorly defined concept to begin with ...) and you are partially correct about how the underlying statistical models work. What you're missing is that by defining a probabilistic model to objects you can "think"/"be creative" because these models dont need to see a "blue hexagonal strawberry" in order to think about what that may mean and imagine what it looks like.

I would recommend this paper for further reading into the topic and would like to point out you are again correct that existing AI systems are far from human levels on the proposed challenges, but inarguably able to "think", "learn" and "creatively" solve those proposed problems.

The person you're responding to isn't trying to pick a fight they're trying to help show you that you have bought whole cloth into a logical fallacy and are being extremely defensive about it to your own detriment.

That's nothing to be embarrassed about, the "LLMs can't be creative because nothing is original, so everything is a derivative work" is a dedicated propaganda effort to further expand copyright and capital consolidation.

Okay, nobody I can vote for will change the process. Now what?

Also dictatorships, monarchies, etc. pretty universally have some form of petition process as well, so not actually a difference...

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It's not defeatist, it's pushing back against the wishful thinking that "voting with your dollar" is effective and your responsibility ends there.

  1. That looks like a pretty standard utility tunnel. The video conveniently stops at the "blast door" which isn't actually weird because electricity is hella dangerous. I would be willing to bet the most dangerous thing found behind that door is a surge arrestor.

  2. The hostages being led inside the hospital isn't great, but it looks to me like they needed medical attention. What would you prefer happen? If I were a hostage and needed medical attention I would much rather live in a world where the hospital cooperates with the "baddies" to provide that medical care and do the "recovery" later, wouldn't you?

  3. Those videos show living hostages. If the goal is to recover the hostages then why is the IDF only recovering bodies?

Based on that evidence you provided I would offer the counter-narrative that it appears that Hamas is trying their best to keep the hostages alive while the IDF prefers them martyred.

"All models are wrong, some are useful."

You should think a bit more about that "ladder" concept. In the same way that advocating for manumission doesn't fix any of the issues with slavery a "path to the rights of the group above" doesn't fix any of the issues with an apartheid state.

Unless you're fine with a little genocide, any apartheid state is not a solution.

Another factor was the PPP and other "totally not bailouts" that were part of the COVID relief spending.

Of the roughly $800 billion dollars from PPP which was provided as uncollateralized, low-interest loans 66-77% went directly to companies and ~92% of those loans were completely forgiven.. In other words an ~5-600M bailout predicated on keeping positions open long enough to maintain plausible deniability that is what the goal was.

Ok Boomer 🙄

The history of that phrase and how it re-entered modern English is fascinating though!

Also the definition of 'gay' and 'gayest' is poorly defined. This assumes that gay is some sort of scalar, where in reality it's a projection from a multidimensional 'queerspace' that can change the appearance of the spectrum wildly depending on the methodology the one projecting uses.

Or the uniform might be saying something about the inherit relationship between cops and queers...

Exactly, hence the root of the problem the original meme is getting at...

Chiming in because you seem to be glossing over the fact that kamala harris is promising a fascist dictatorship as well. Did you listen to her acceptance speech? She is also promising to purge us. What do you think that "most lethal military" is for?

The truly insane thing is that donald trump functions as a good enough boogeyman that it has normally reasonable, intelligent people like you on the verge of chanting "build that wall!" because you'd rather your genociders be polite and civil while they send you to your internment camps.

It takes an extremely privileged position to demand others "vote blue no matter who" when 'the blues' are engaged in actively purging them right now. You can be as much of an apologist as you want but if you insist on voting as a mechanism for change, the only change that can come from that is at least voting third party.

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So the only ones who have the power to fix the system are Republicans? If that's the case why isn't the strategy then to vote Republican and change their hearts and minds instead?

Or if you legitimately believe the only way to accrue enough political power is to become indistinguishable from that which you're trying to replace, does it matter if it gets replaced at all?

(Mostly rhetorical questions, I just strongly believe that you have an incorrect analysis of this situation and what must be done to change it and am hoping to provide other perspectives because you are not getting it...)

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To be clear your dividing line between "fascism" and not is "dictatorship"? You have no problem calling the USSR and PRC dictatorships (assuming due to the functionally 1 party systems).

A 2 party system where one gets to dictate what the other can/cannot do is a dictatorship is it not? Or else what do you mean by the Democrats can't do anything because the "system is kinda rigged against them"? My argument is actually that "corporatism" is the 1 party dictatorship in the US which I believe is a stronger argument but also requires a deeper dive...

The word choice of "fascist" is deliberate so that you take the current state of things seriously because your belief that others disagree with you because they 'just don't understand how government works' is a very unserious one.

I would be curious to know what the "effective difference" between, historically, Trump and Biden is because the functional difference has been negligible. I'm also old enough to recall the Obama vs Romney and old enough to recall they were also marketed as polar opposites. The only major difference between then and now is the faces and increased normalization.

We'll still be able to organize under Harris, and that won't be the case with a Trump regime.

Have you not been paying attention to the attempts at organizing under the current Biden administration?

We're fighting against a century of antisocialist propaganda, and that's going to take a long time to undo

As well as nationalistic propaganda which I am desperately trying to help you see past. The actual workings of the us government are significantly different than what was taught in your AP high school history class and I need you to have more intellectual curiosity and less parroting.

if you actually think Harris will purge trans people

Yes, the only difference is that Trump will actively encourage vigilantism while being largely ineffective whereas Harris will do the 'I promise we are doing everything in our power to prevent these gross mischarges of justice!!! But we need to build more prisons in order to effectively combat attacks against our democracy.' song and dance. See the "kids in cages", Roe v Wade, war on the homeless, Iran escalation etc. comparing Trump Vs. Biden.

if you think that voting third party accomplishes anything at all

It's at least not a vote for dictatorship. I agree it's functionally useless but I'm hoping to help you understand how it's not any less useless than a vote for Harris. My goal isn't to convince you to vote third party, my goal is to help you understand other viewpoints instead of actively belittling those with different perspectives.

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Then who has the power to fix anything?

You are engaging with a different comment thread, if you would like to engage with that thread and not be dismissive and condescending then go over there. (Lol, seriously why did you feel it necessary to post a screenshot of the og 'Charlie Brown had hoes' tweet?! 🤣)

Would you like to take a pass at answering the above rhetorical questions?

No. It was a shortcut I took to shortcircuit your argument that Biden is fascist. Not all dictators are fascists, but all fascists are dictators.

Then provide your definition of the term "fascist" because it clearly differs from the dictionary definition.

The U.S. government is set up in a way that makes it extremely resistant to change, both good and bad. This means that the Democrats, who at least make a token effort towards progress, face an uphill battle. Republicans, on the other hand, just want to stymie progress and roll back everything they can, and it's always a lot easier to tear things down than build things up.

Many of the things that we see are not "stymied progress" or "roll back everything". The modern US government today is in many ways very different than it was even 20 years ago. Republicans and Democrats have been building and modifying how the US government operates and they are making changes that directly change the form and function of government. The supreme Court and presidency did not have as much power as they do now. If you read the "Project 2025 agenda" it is not rolling things back, it is a plan for building a new thing.

If that is your argument then why don't the Democrats simply roll back many of the extensions that have been made? If it's easier to tear down, then the citizen's united case should be easy to destroy? We could revert to 1960s federal tax rates? Repeal the homeland security act? That argument requires an extremely ahistorical understanding, but one you seem to share with the "make America great again" crowd.

Our system is inherently dysfunctional, with many of the advances in progress that we've made lately have been due to Supreme Court decisions, and, well, the Republicans seized control of it and are now using it to roll back those advances. In fact, now that they're obviously in the bag for Trump, they're making nonsensical and unconstitutional decisions that will hand Trump a lot of power that will make things a lot worse for all of us.

If only we could've elected a democratic president in between Trump's first and second term...

your weak grasp on how the American government works

You have a good grasp on how the de jure government works, but seem to be rather ignorant (seemingly intentionally) of how the de facto government works. That ignorance is what I'm trying to highlight and why you keep ending up in disagreements. You can keep repeating what you read in your AP US history book but you should really be paying more attention to when it doesn't match the present material conditions.

I do know that we need to do something actionable, and not throw our hands up and go "we've tried everything and we're all out of ideas". Your idealism clouds your mind to the point where you're actively working against what you're professing to believe

Funny, that's exactly what I'm saying. Your idealism surrounding what the Democratic party is, and it's purpose, has you actively working and arguing against your beliefs.

compare and contrast Harris's proposed policy agenda and Trump's Agenda 47/Project 2025 and tell me that they're the same.

I don't care what they say, I care what they do and they will both do the same thing.

if you somehow view even Trump and Romney as the same

They are not, but the messaging surrounding them at the time was. Similiarly going from the first black president to Jim Crow Joe is quite the difference on the Democratic side as well.

I don't think that leftist organizing will face quite that amount of pushback.

Then you live under a rock.

the man sent goons in unmarked vans to harass, detain, and intimidate BLM protesters in Portland.

Using presidential powers created under Bush and expanded under Obama. It was a more brazen use of those powers than usual, but not too out of the ordinary if you've paid attention to events in Ferguson, standing rock, etc.

you can't discern the painfully obvious difference between the mediocre status quo Harris and the absolutely fascist Donald Trump

The "mediocre status quo" is absolutely fascist.

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