Skiv

@Skiv@lemmy.world
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This isn't even a shit post, just being objectively aware of reality

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Damn, I had forgotten how obnoxious that was on Reddit. Blocked all of those years ago because it was just unnecessary and a gross way to qualify otherwise unremarkable photos.

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That sets prisoners up as underclass members of general society which is exactly the condition that leads to a lot of people becoming criminals in the first place

That's the unspoken point. The system is already so drunk on the exploitation of slave labor to the point that all involved actively seek to encourage recidivism. They want all of us for any reason they can shit out.

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It will, there will always be charlatans looking to get their jollies by lying for an audience.

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Take a genuine interest in their obsessions. Not a performative "I want you to see I like this for you" but a real "I've been going out and doing this on my own for the past few weeks/months and I want to talk about it"

You do actually have to do it, they'll spot your bullshit before you speak it.

This is the same for me. Comes with downsides too, but I've found weed incredibly valuable for.. not really controlling or prompting hyperfocus states, but definitely a strong catalyst.

Still don't really feel in control over which single line of interest gets the focus, but at least it's not everything.

Bottom should just be some kid getting "wyd?" Message from spez

Sorry, did you take this as me coming at you? I was genuinely interested in your take on the banana's relevance because high conceptual contemporary art is very easy to dismiss as "not art" by the layperson which makes it an interesting touch point for the AI value debate. I very much understand and agree with what you've said here, and you've described me at two separate stages of my career.

I find it fun that you mention a 100,000 word novel because I keep going back to thinking about how "a picture is worth a thousand words" is probably seeing some major economic volatility nowadays. That adage is very much in question now. Some of these prompts are getting way up there and, personally, the results very rarely look like they're worth the effort.

As it exists, AI isn't even a keen new tool, yet. But I am biased as someone who routinely creates visuals from scratch and uses a lot of different tools. It's clearly mind-blowing for the folks who don't. It is a kinda fun gadget, but it's really no more sophisticated than good old "content-aware" and just as fiddly and commercially not useful. The prompt engineers will have words for me, but really: this tech is laughably dumb at this stage.

But I don't believe it ever really will be keen with this mode of operation as it's basis - all this will ever do is force the homogenization of visual anything/everything. We've already seen similar thanks to Pinterest and ArtStation and any other community drawing for the same reference points. Fantastic if you don't care about visuals but uh, hope you're really into hyper-mainstream media because that's all it will look like.

Because you're right, it's only the non-artists who think it can replace artists -because they don't actually value art, just the benefit it grants them. Not that they value the artist either, obviously. These are people who agree with AI developers that not only can visual design be formulated, but even worse that it should be to make it easier/cheaper/whatever.

But the sad reality is that it's here. And it's impressive enough to convince those with resources that it is worth pursuing further down this path of development. It isn't, but they're definitely not going to go back to carve out protections for the creative community. So we are stuck with a few options.

-adapt - work it into your flow because you'll have to at this rate. Sucks, but they fucked the game.

-abolish - yea, we're not going get that far, but we might be able to maintain this copyright denial which will keep it from replacing jobs by way of being unusable content.

-compete - obviously it's going to be impossible to do so directly as an artist versus an AI for output, but keep in mind this still just the first wave of this concept. Future iterations of the concept (I'm talking specifically not future versions of current tools) can still be about challenging the basis this technology operates on. Something ethically designed to respect and reward the human behind every element the AI interacts with. They'd love for us to think they're too dominant to challenge, but look at how many copycats exist already. There's tons of room for sending this wave to the obsolete pile.

Try to keep in mind how many redditors are now on lemmy.

They get emotional and want to fight over semantics and anecdotes constantly especially when they realize they've assumed intent incorrectly. They only know how to double down. It's not their fault.

They're only hearing "your problem isn't real" because they're not listening.

No, genuinely, you're reading it wrong and taking it personally because others already started the downvote train. Yes what they suggest isn't immediately realistic, but it's easily achievable if people actually wanted to do it.

Like are you under the belief that all of our social structures were borne out of the natural order of the universe - entirely immutable and incapable of change?

Is it truly not possible in your mind that we are arbitrarily subjecting ourselves to unnecessary cruelty for the comfort of people who think change can't happen?

They never said the problem isn't real. They said the way society is structured is what make it manifest as a problem because society is not equipped to accommodate you as you deserve. You don't deserve to be treated as a broken individual, you deserve to not have an unjustly difficult life because of something you were born with. Giving it a negative connotation label as a disorder affects the way people (without a clinical understanding of the word) behave toward you. The label is enhancing the harm you face and would be the first step toward altering the public understanding of ADHD.

How's that paranoia going for you?

Yea, we're well into DADA-ist territory to find interesting reference points for the timeless question of "what is art" in this discussion.

I'm curious: how do you feel this relates? Does the banana feel like it should or should not be art and/or copyrighted? Is it an energy/effort quality being compared to the end result? Or just the concept vs physical manifestation of the concept?

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Ok troll

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Now I'm just hoping some idiot out there is trying to copyright melting crayons down a blank canvas.

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One person with ADHD to you: you're wildly misunderstanding or you're trolling. There is no alternative here.

They are not suggesting ADHD should not be recognized as something we deserve accomodations for. They are saying the exact opposite on a true but unrealistic level. They are saying it's only a problem that requires accomodations because of the way the world runs on neurotypical ideas and generally under neurotypical leadership. Everything.

Neurotypical folks will never question the 9-5 because it works for them. But it's a problem for them if you can't maintain working schedules.

They will never understand the constant executive challenges we face, so they cannot relate to our struggles. They don't care enough to empathize, so it's an ironic character judgement against you.

Finding a job that even tickles your interest is hard. Finding leadership that gets it is very difficult. Making it through the screening process to the interview can be almost impossible. But that's just how things are, right?

The environmental problem is neurotypical dominance at every level of life from the top down and the expectations you will held to by default as a direct result of that. The ease with which you are brushed off is a result of the combination of those unfair expectations, their lack of understanding, and the connotation of "disorder." It makes you a problem not worth considering to them.

The desire for freedom from the expectation of working like a robot on a rigid schedule doing something that doesn't interest you in the slightest, is probably universal. Sure.

There are plenty of ADHD folks who are able to outperform neurotypical peers when they have a suitable environment. They typically have quite a few accomodations being made by empathetic leadership to create the mental space they need. In my own case, this meant a near complete disregard for when working hours occur, judgements based on results as opposed to daily stand-ups and reports, and completely bypassing hierarchies of communication to limit people's access to pulling me out of hyperfocus.

Not like overwhelming people with needlessly repetitive information stretched out over long periods of time littered with small talk and nonsense doesn't have value, it's just completely counter to what the ADHD brain needs to work.

The almost complete lack of alternatives which align to your natural cycles and focus states is a social failing to recognize that you are not disordered at all. You just do not have viable options so they slapped disordered on you and make you jump through fees and hoops for accomodations. Because this is America: one size fits all or you're broken.

So here you are, demanding they close your cage and keep you in there. (which is a shitty band-aid you appear to recognize is the best we've got)

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