StrangeAstronomer

@StrangeAstronomer@lemmy.ml
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voidlinux on my laptop (from Fedora) - why? I wanted to see what a systemd-less distro was like nowadays. I have used Linux since 1992 and Unix since 1984 so I'm used to SysVinit. What I find with voidlinux is a system I can understand easily - not that I struggle with systemd, but I felt there was just so much happening under the hood, just too clever by half. If I wanted MacOS, I'd have bought an Apple.

The packaging system on voidlinux is sooooo much faster than fedora. The really weird thing is that my battery life almost doubled. I can't explain it except to say that the laptop is much calmer than under fedora, which seems to run the fan constantly. Same workload, CPU governers, powertop tweaks etc etc - but battery life almost doubled.

The one downside is a smaller array of packages in the repositories. But since I'm happy installing from source for those few corner cases, it's no biggie.

I've left fedora on my media/file server for now as I still do some fedora packaging (mainly for sway related packages).

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To imply that systemd is merely an init system is ingenuous at best and dishonest at worst - systemd is so much more than an init system, as that article mentioned. Since the article was written in 2014 systemd has grown massively in scope, even more than the author feared.

It manages DNS, home directories, system services, seat managment, cron, system logging, booting... the list is ever growing. As such many people fear it is becoming too dominant through making more and more software dependent on it. It is not atomic - it is very difficult to have just one piece of systemd as its parts are tightly integrated and inter-dependent.

One could even claim that systemd failed in it's original remit - to make startup as fast as macOS by running tasks in parallel and by deferring service startup until they are actually needed. The result has been a not very performant init system - many init systems are faster eg runit, dinit. The systemd people now claim that speed is not a design goal.

It is, however, open source and very widely adopted. Most people don't care - they just want to run their browser and word processor.

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What for? Even if they have improvements in some areas, the original POSIX standard utilities will continue to be needed for script compatibility. You're not going to swap them out - at best you can add them and then you just have an additional code base to support with additional attack surface to protect.

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You can't avoid IBM/RedHat - they contribute to the kernel and many, many other parts of Linux eg systemd. I have no idea what you mean by DIY distros, what a peculiar adjective in this context. Linux itself is DIY. Life is DIY.

That said, voidlinux is an independent distro without systemd or snaps based on runit for init and xbps for package management. It's also a STABLE rolling release.

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Rock solid on my 11-yo laptop that has been running fedora and updated every 6 months since I bought it in 2012.

I've always updated late in the fedora cycle - maybe that's the go.

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Can't believe no-one mentioned voidlinux yet. It's very tasty.

I daresay there's a way to do something like this with fzf

"64-128mb ram" is hardly "low memory"!

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virt-manager for the win!

I've been using a Dell XPS L502X with fedora since it was delivered 10/8/2011. No real problems, but I recently moved to voidlinux and almost doubled my battery life. Dell put quite a lot of time into supporting linux.

Maybe check here: https://linux-hardware.org/

waybar is good

scrcpy for android connectivity; syncthing to get files to and fro android (and any other linux system)

clipman for clipboard manager

wallpaper - whatever for? with a TWM you rarely see the background

emacs - because it's life (I jest)

So he's a journalist
Thanks for the warning, saved me a read.

BTW - thanks for Mistral. Another tool in the box!

I've just bounced into voidlinux and I'm very impressed by how complete* it is and how snappy. So that's not a very objective measure, but my (old) battery life has jumped from 1.5h on fedora-38 to 2h+ under void (very similar workload). I think that's an indication of how light-on the hardware the OS is - perhaps it's because it's not running systemd. If you're looking to squeeze more out of your hardware, take a look at void!

* the only thing missing from my manifest is mythtv - firefox, libreoffice, emacs syncthing etc and it's all the latest

I followed up on github as you suggested and a very nice young man took a look at it and said that the code already does work the right way (at least the way I and their little poll think it should work). But, it turns out that the fix (from 2021) has not been deployed - it's to be in the next release.

So I don't know what will happen now - I'll continue to use my workaround, so I'm happy enough.

waypipe - yes. But also wayvnc - I've been using wayvnc for a couple of years to export a headless wayland session from a file server. FOr my sins I use vncviewer on XWayland to consume it as it still seems to be the fastest.

It might be more expected for you but I'm going to differ.

for an article (or a link to a image), it takes you there instead.

... and then you can't get to the discussion.

The RSS-2.0 definition of is

The URL to the HTML website corresponding to the channel.

so clearly, it should point to the lemmy post. No other RSS feed that I know of has this problem.

Fortunately, emacs can flex around this, but duh! Where can I raise a bug report?

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Quite right!

You need to take it all (AI or internet searches) with a huge pinch of salt. Even ye olde text books were not infallible and often out of date, so sodium chloride was also required even then.

The code either works or it doesn't - it's all in the testing. If you deploy AI suggestions without thought you deserve the consequences.

I generally use mpv+yt-dlp from the CLI (once I have a URL). Often I use youtube-tldr (google it) to get a summary of a page - maybe you have noticed /s that youtube videos often take 10-15 minutess to get across one simple point!!

thanks!

Another approach entirely is to use pam_mount(8) which can automatically mount a disc on login. I use it to mount /home/$USER (obviously this couldn't be used to mount the root fs !!)

I vote for voidlinux - I have no idea why, but I get almost double the battery life compared to fedora. No doubt it's something stupid I've done on fedora but - I just love void.

If you want to try living without systemd, take a look at voidlinux - it uses runit instead. I made the jump from Fedora recently and I love it! Linux is once again the unix system I loved for 40+ years - it's rational, easy to understand and just works! As an added bonus, I do believe I get about 50% more life out of the battery (less busy-work going on?). What do I miss from systemd? Nothing really.

gtklock for sway/wayland

so just use chatgpt or gemini - pretty sure they sucked in all of reddit to form their KB

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Link for the video?

As a general rule of thumb, I've been told that anything less than a 50% performance boost is hardly noticeable.

I've also heard (but ready to stand corrected) that mitigation costs only about 10% CPU (depending on the CPU).

I don't get out of bed for a 10% performance boost.