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Bummer that it looks like we lost a bunch of top notch comments in one of the original threads...but to answer one question I tried to reply to right as the other threads were replaced with the megathread.

Judging by #1's links to phone calls to senators/reps on 6JAN I'd say that's Rudy. Since he's a bumbling idiot and called the wrong numbers we have the voicemail he intended to leave for Tuberville.

Reports say Eastman's lawyers confirmed he is #2, but I couldn't find a link so we'll have to wait for confirmation on that one.

Edit: Looking at page 30 I would assume #4 is Jeffrey Clark, as WH council was trying to dissuade him from taking the role of acting AG.

Edit again: My guess for #5 is Kenny Chesebro, with a name like that I shouldn't have forgotten about him but he was critical in the fake elector plot.

Last edit(?): Boris Epshteyn might be behind door #6, putting this in comments and I'll leave it if I'm wrong!

Saw Oppenheimer tonight, the number of people wearing bright pink in the theater lobby was a sight to behold.

It was really cool actually.

Reportedly 3 inches taller than I am, and only 10lbs heavier. But he probably couldn't stretch one of my shirts enough to even get it over his moobs.

If he's found guilty of everything in this indictment the sentences will be served concurrently. All the attention grabbing headlines claiming he's 'facing 327 years in prison" are bunk.

But in his case there's no difference between 15-20 and 327.

But you'd also think someone who is running for president would want to do whatever possible to get those 'found not guilty' headlines as soon as possible.

Ya know... If they were confident that 'not guilty' was the most likely outcome.

Meta/Twitter/whoever are also protected by the 1st Amendment when it comes to deciding what they allow on their platform.

A law or ruling that forces social media companies to carry specific speech is unconstitutional.

'We have a lot of theories but no evidence'

So they didn't even vet the theories...and Rudy was just "repeating what he was told" because that's a good defense. But they're saying this lawsuit was only filed to embarrass Rudy.

They also party harder than strawberries

Just a note about the injunction, it will not survive on appeal. The judge in this case stretched things pretty thin in his argument for the emergency injunction pending trial in this case. Lumping together government agencies reporting TOS violations with other elected officials threatening section 230 into one was just silly. Episode 771 of the Opening Arguments podcast does a better job of explaining the injunction and ongoing case than I ever could.

I always refer to it as "the 4th grade playground definition" of free speech.

Not if your understanding of the US Constitution is the same as it was when you were in grade 3.

NBC reported that #3 is Powell which makes sense.

I'm not sold on Bannon but I may have missed reports that he assisted with the electoral college certificate fraud plan. I still haven't made it to that part of the indictment...because I skipped forward to the sections about obstructing the certification.

I can also recommend OA, they'll get a little into the weeds on some things but I enjoy that kind of stuff.

I'm guessing that Meadows cooperated.

Convicted most likely, jailed...no

This is huge, and it sucks that it's being overshadowed by the late afternoon news today.

Co-conspirator 6's involvement here is strictly related to the forged elector certificates. Pages 24&25 outline some of what this person did, like providing language used on the fake certificates, and a list of lawyers to help in each state they were planning to file fake certs from.

It doesn't seem like much but quasi-legal language for the bogus certificates seems out of Bannon's league. This is why I'm leaning toward Boris Epshteyn, who is a lawyer...but was acting as an advisor to the campaign instead.

Judging by what he was involved in (forged elector doc verbiage, gathering a list of lawyers to assist in each state they planned to forge said certs) Boris was my slightly educated guess.

There were a lot of high hopes that it would be Stone or Bannon but they just don't fit the bill.

Whoever it ends up being, they're not a big household name. I'm now split on Boris Epshteyn and Mike Roman, but I can't find anything that perfectly links them to emails/phone calls from the dates mentioned in today's indictment. They were both big parts of the fake electors conspiracy.

Right? And there's so many to choose from!

I have been wracking my brain and searching because I swear there was reporting about who actually drafted the fake elector certificates, but given the description of their actions I'm not thinking Bannon or Stone.

I've settled on #6 being Boris Epshteyn, even though he is a lawyer, he was acting as an advisor to the trump campaign during the post-election dipshittery. He was also on some of the reported email chains, though the emails mentioned in the indictment haven't been released.

I was just (somewhat poorly) answering the 'why is this even an option' question above, not trying to justify it.

Even if it does work, it changes nothing but the venue. They're still facing state charges, and it's still DA Willis and her team bringing them, it'll just be a federal judge overseeing with a slightly larger jury pool.

My point wasn't that it's a way to avoid the charges, however it will work as a delay tactic.

Not op (nor a lawyer) but as it was explained by an actual lawyer, there's an argument to be made that since some of the crimes were committed while president he could argue that they were done so as part of his presidential duties. If the judge agrees it could be moved to federal court.

Mark Meadows has already filled a req to remove the case to federal court since he was acting as a federal employee during all the crime-ing.