Miele (European) (dish) washing / dryers / fridges

Reddit was slowly but surely becoming a terrible host for our @RimWorldPorn@rimworld.gallery community (direct link.) Then came the final straw, while we went black we held a vote and a majority voted for the community to move elsewhere. We chose for Mbin, which has turned out a to be a great platform, with the advantage of being part of the fediverse.

I'd personally only used mastodon up to that point, I now hardly ever browse reddit

One thing I miss in activitypub is a verification system. This is most important for deletion. For example, when something is deleted on one instance, there's no way of knowing for sure if it will be deleted from other instances as well. An instance being down or malfunctioning can cause deletion to fail with no way to know* and try again for op.

*To know one would have to check every single subscribing instance. Trying to delete an already deleted item is obviously impossible

Wood=good

What's for dinner tonight, I wonder

No Mbin?

A list of mbin instances

I care. Sorry to see you go. The fediverse can still grow, I suggest you at least stay to lurk and see. It's just not happening at the pace we were all hoping for at the time. Is reddit really that much better? You're not an asshole for being honest

Hijacking your question, is it possible to install Linux on Samsung tablets?

Great to hear kbin is back on track, and assumably so are you @ernest. With so many improvements having been made, however, I can't help but wonder if and how these changes are being made public?

Most mobile phone stores sadly only sell big brands noeadays. I've been looking for a store that sells Sony, haven't found one yet

Mbin https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin

Pro for me: the ui is a bit more intuitive

Most buildings don't have that many floors

Not just deleted, but yes, or a way to check

Check out https://kbin.melroy.org as well, it's a forked version of kbin

So do I

Which was partially because the fediverse wasn't ready for them then. But it is now, the Reddit user spike triggered a lot of ongoing development and raised awareness of what's required to handle a large userbase

Absolutely and that's totally fine. Ernest however had a lot of his community members believe that they were part of the project, but this turned out not quite to be the case. I fell for that as well, when I joined it seemed like a crowded project with several enthusiastic developers. Not judging, but if I'd known it was a one man project at the time I would not have chosen for kbin for rimworld.gallery

and when I say NOTHING I mean without financing the project.

This is not quite true, the project was being partially financed by external parties

But you are right. And we all know this. Kbin/mbin still is a fantastic project. We all respect Ernest for creating it. The software was immature as you said, a lot of people jumped in and offered their help, including actually making the features they were, as you call it, demanding. He was no longer alone. When things went south, everybody sympathized and several people offered him help and advice in many ways, which he has explicitly refused.

But that was all then, circumstances were far from optimal, indeed. Things are back to normal now, have in fact been for quite a while. This would have been the chance to get things sorted, especially delegating access to the back end of kbin.social, but sadly, nothing has changed

I have offered him my help, several times, when he finally responded he explained he's bad at excepting help. That's fine, but that's one of the things which, as I've said in this thread before, makes him unsuitable for running kbin.social by himself

Which is now ~ 10 days ago with no sign of any progress. Ask yourselves, what is going on?

Correct. I am addressing the admins of those 28 servers

Of 61,489 users on all instances, 59,962 of these are on kbin.social.

That's kind of worrying then. I am also addressing them to remember there's always going to be Mbin servers to fall back to in case kbin.social fails

I miss Fenix

It is. And this isn't just in Europe. I look wherever I go when I see electronics shops, I just want to try one before buying it

Try mbin

Thank you for your in depth, genuine, reply

Believe me, I tried to delegate tasks, had many private conversations and discussions. Perhaps it wasn't visible from the outside

I am sorry but I'm having a hard time believing you when you say that you were seriously trying to delegate, as not a single soul ever said anything which would remotely confirm this. I believe you had conversations, but they ultimately didn't result in anything in this context.

However, in that mental state, the last thing I wanted to do was resolve conflicts among adults

I am not sure how to interpret this as there were no conflicts that I'm aware of that needed resolving during your absence, everybody was just waiting

I am more of a person who prefers to stay on the sidelines and engage in what brings me the greatest pleasure - coding, just like any other contributor.

There's nothing wrong with being like that, there are other people willing to do things like resolving issues. Like me. I realize I appeared out of nowhere. As a new instance owner it took a while for me to notice, but when the situation became clear to me I was ready to jump in and help, just like all the other people who had offered their help (before me).

You've basically just admitted that you were either incapable of or unwilling to engage in structural problem solving and management of the kbin project. That's fine, but you should have reached out and informed the community as soon as you became aware of this.

forking turned out to be the best thing that could happen

Yes, forking can have positive side effects and perhaps having two versions in development synchronously can merit more than one. This however was not the proper way to achieve this and using it as an excuse to justify your behavior and inaction is unjust.

However, it is not too late. You can still do the right thing by starting delegation now, by clearly assigning multiple people to all essential tasks, and giving multiple people complete control of kbin.social, so that, should a similar situation occur in the future, you and the community will confidently know that the project will not grind to a halt again.

Then seek a constructive dialog with the mbin community and we can make the project, in it's current for, work. Together.

If you feel uncomfortable with or are have trouble doing any of this, as you've clearly indicated you'd rather spend your time on coding, you are always welcome to ask me for advice.

Never hesitate to ask for help.

I assume nlnet are capable of looking after their own business, it's none of mine anyway. And from what Ernest has written in the past I suspect that he's lost the grant.

He has made several promises, several times but never stuck to his words. He's repeating his actions again, although it's not as apparent this time as before, because there's less people involved.

Admins is not enough, there have to be people he trusts, with full access to the server, to make sure the community can be preserved

time to all move to another server then

Paid for, in part, by the nlnet foundation. So not just his own money, now that you mention it. But that's not what bothers me neither am I trying to take his computer away. What I have asked him to do, several times, and I am not the only one, is to make sure that should something go bad in his life again other people can take over for him (temporarily)

Sure. If you do too.

This behaviour makes you and by extension mbin seem like a bunch of unhinged petty drama queens.

It's not one week of inactivity, this has been going on for months. If you want to start accusing me of things please read into the entire situation first, starting in October, on the kbin dev matrix

Yeah that makes sense and frankly I was a bit scared at first that mbin wouldn't last long. But it's still here and actively being developed. What we have to try to avoid Indeed is forking again.

Maybe I'm blind but I don't see anybody saying that neither is it my opinion

Ah

Why is that?

I was reminded of the situation by a notification of this comment on my post. I realized it was a week ago and out of curiosity checked Ernest's dev blog and the codeberg repo to see if any progress had been made. That is not tracking, that is not stalking, that is not harassment.

You said before you were not involved. Well, now you are. This thread has now been escalated from defamation to false accusations against me, by you.

For real, stop trying to silence me, @melroy and others by pretending I'm committing crimes, and by trying to install fear of further escalation.

Stop trying to blame me for this situation.

No need to prove it, that's not my point

My point is that there has been no commit to Codeberg for a month. So, if development is still ongoing, it is being done somewhere else.

I am very sorry but am not seeing any commits in any of the branches? I may be overlooking something.

Update: sorry I did not read your reply thorougly enough.

But even if that's the case,

Up to a month ago it was common to see commits in the development branch on a regular basis. So it may be a change of strategy, but even if so, it's still without announcement or explanation.

That last thing for me is the issue. It's happened before, where Ernest left everybody dangling. Fair enough, he's written in his devblog. But the community doesn't know if any of that is based on reality and, sadly, due to things which happened in the past and given the circumstances, that makes me very skeptical

I don't really understand (mbin stays behind) but it sounds interesting, could you explain a bit further?