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That's not a troll, CSAM goes well beyond trolling, pedophile would be a more accurate term for them.

There's a Matrix Room for building mod tools here maybe we might want to bring up this issue there, just in case they aren't already aware.

They also changed the account sign ups to be application only so people can't create accounts without being approved.

This is a serious problem we are discussing, please don't use this as an opportunity to inject bad-faith arguments.

Edit: Wow your post history is a lot of the same garbage, there is no point in attempting to reason with you, you seem to be defending the act of CSAM or just trolling (really awful and severe trolling I might add, CSAM isn't something to joke or troll about).

Do you know why we have possession laws against CSAM in the first place? It's because people buy and sell abuse material in underground markets, it's another way they profit off the abuse of children. This is nothing like drug possession laws (which are stupid) because the product is literally a direct product of the abuse of children that many of the people in possession likely helped the criminals in order to obtain it (either directly or by paying them for it).

So yes in this case it does make sense to criminally charge people for possession of something like this considering the direct connection CSAM has to child trafficking and child sexual abuse and when you defend it by going against possession laws it makes it seem like you support these criminals.

Sign-ups are manual approval applications, no more automated sign-ups from them, if they have existing accounts and target another community it'll be closed as well and those accounts banned, there isn't a stream of new accounts though because all accounts going forward need to be manually approved.

Ah I see what's going on, you're salty that they closed the shitposting community so you're trolling here, going so far as to compare gays and jews to pedophillia (which is extremely bigoted and incorrect) or downplay the horrific acts that led to the closing of that community and registrations to protect the rest of the Instance's well being.

Also I'd appreciate it if you didn't edit what I said when quoting me, thanks.

A person who is attracted to children is an evil and disgusting person, someone being a pedophile isn't just "liking something", they are a monster.

Okay, fair enough. I wasn't considering those people since they'll never really be labelled pedophiles due to hiding their mental illness from the world (only really disclosing it to mental health professionals if ever) and never acting on it. It's the actions committed or fantasies endorsed that differentiate someone from merely being mentally ill or a monster.

Disclaimer: Would like to say, it is valid for me or anyone else to say pedophiles are mentally ill but it is not valid to say that gay people are mentally ill, homosexuality is a legitimate sexual orientation because people pursuing homosexual attractions with other consenting adults does not harm others, (this is not debatable and I WILL report any homophobic arguments I see popping up as a result here) however pedophilia is not like this at all because anyone who pursues it will cause harm because children cannot consent and therefore these interactions are harmful to them and anyone involved, which is why it is a mental illness (again this is also not debatable, anything that causes harm to others by acting on it is not a valid orientation but a mental illness, same thing goes for rapists).

I don't know if it has been mentioned there yet but do you think it would be a good idea to post this to the lemmy incidents room on Matrix?

Oh by the way, MAP stuff really doesn't look good on you (that's in your comment history). Yeah maybe you think I'm a terrible person because I think drugs should be treated less harshly but you have literally said in other comments that Pedophiles should be allowed to get off on what turns them on (which I remind you is exploitation of Minors). That is a very different stance than people shouldn't be beaten and arrested for snorting coke, you're literally advocating for people to be allowed to produce and consume abuse material and claiming that it's acceptable for people to be pedophiles, and pursue their attractions instead of getting help. I don't know how you don't see what is wrong with that. Like seriously this is either really bad trolling (way too far) or, you're one of them.

Too bad, I’m “kid agnostic”; they might as well be cars or dragons —drawn or otherwise—, I don’t care whether they’re “kid” or “grownup” cars or dragons.

I think I now know which one it is if that statement from the horse's mouth is to be believed...

It's evil, disgusting, and illegal. Weird doesn't seem like a good adjective at all to describe what happened, way too tame.

What he's saying is FBI CHECK THAT GUY'S HARD DRIVE!

Fair enough.

I had no idea how right I was at the time I commented that, since I hadn't scrolled far back enough in his comment history but yeah, way more right than I would've liked 😬

Lol you do realize blocking on Lemmy means to ignore them, it's not going to silence them or more critically prevent them from downvoting or reporting you like it does on Reddit.

You're just going to stop seeing them, they can keep calling you out for it. You just made it easier for them.

Amazing, you think that being against pedophiles makes someone a bigot, do you think the same applies to being against Nazis as well? Paradox of tolerance much?

There's a very clear difference between the arguments you cited and pedophilia, which is that pedophilia causes physical and psychological harm to the child who is the victim and also is extremely psychologically harmful to the people who witness such event or the abuse material from it. I don't think you realize how severe this is or you wouldn't be trying to defend such heinous acts right now.

FBI doesn't use pitchforks bud, they have tasers and guns.

I would definately agree that this would very likely count as cyber terrorism, and if it doesn't it should.

Maybe you could start with making pull-requests to help and maybe also writting them an application on Matrix. I'm not being snarky just pointing out that it's easier to help than you might think.

You were banned because you were arguing for why people shouldn't be arrested for possession of CSAM material, trolling and straw-manning in the replies, and on top of that attempting to seriously and honestly advocate for pedophiles on another community, which is at best borderline illegal (anyone can check the modlog on that one if they don't believe me, I wouldn't make such claims if they weren't true).

So to summerize you were banned for

• Trolling
• Promoting Illegal Activities (Pedophilla and CSAM)

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They were banned because they were defending pedophilia (advocating for them to be able to get off to what turns them on) and also trolling very aggressively. You can look at them in the Modlog on the Website, not sure if Apps implement the modlog yet though.

Just a heads up, this person is a known troll across lemmy they're well known for their hostile and inflammatory content and just saying things to get a rise out of people, this person also isn't exactly receptive to feedback. Just wanted to let you know since trying to talk with someone like this is like talking to a brick wall.

Matrix is a secure chat protocol used by the Devs to message eachother.

A pull request is a way of proposing and contributing code on git-based platforms like github, gitlab, and codeberg.

I have not clue, people can be quite toxic and horrible. Also noticed that they reduced his ban, not sure why, defending pedophilia is pretty bad and definitely carries legal risk but it's not my call to make.

I guess this is also the difference between getting caught or not. To me, rapist that is never caught is still a rapist even if they are never labelled as such, so a pedophile that hides it forever successfully is still a pedophile.

Agreed. If they did it but hid it and never were publicly labeled as a pedophile they are still a pedophile because of their actions and intentions, even if they were never caught and/or cancelled/convicted for it.

Indeed there was. I don't understand why.

There was an Instance (check bottom of instances page, it's the most recent one in blocked as of writing this) that had rules allowing loli (drawn CSAM) which was defederated very recently. I originally made a post about it on support but deleted it because there was a lot of backlash (backlash against defederating a loli CSAM instance 😒) so I just messaged about it privately, not just to lw admins but to many others as well across lemmy.

More accurate to what it is, CSAM describes it as what it is, abuse material.

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Vote manipulation will be tricky to enforce, since votes can come from any Instance due to the whole federation thing, if the user uses the same username on their account it's easy but if not it can be very difficult if not impossible.

That's good then, was worried for a sec that people could upload images without having an account, that would be very bad and make these kind of attacks insanely easy.

Wait I noticed that there's an image button in the application form, is there any risk that that might be abused by users passing by to upload to pictrs in registrations without an account? That could be a big problem if they could.

Do people think that someone has to use the same email address, or the same username? If someone uses a different email, username, and IP address (don't try and argue semantics it can, always can, and always has been done) then whatever you put into the list can't be applied to them.

Even if you ask for IDs people can fake those, it's illegal sure but so is what these assholes did and it didn't really stop them now did it.

What misinformation, are you trying to imply that the known instance wasn't defederated for hosting or allowing the hosting of illegal content, do you think they weren't at all or do you think loli is acceptable and not CSAM, because FYI opinions may vary but the law is clear CSAM even fictional is illegal to produce, host, or consume.