_Gandalf_the_Black_

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I don't think that's exclusive to Americans, not even close

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It's true. In English we string words together instead of putting them into one word, so there's not really much difference beyond the odd bit of morphology.

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Red guy should've waited three years to respond to that

This sounds a lot like an issue that can be solved by slightly opening a window

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I was shocked until I read the username

As long as it's a small amount of cheese, you can salvage the situation (having learned your lesson not to toast sandwiches in the toaster). Make sure the room is well-ventilated and you don't do this directly under a smoke detector: turn the toaster on for a couple of seconds at a time so the cheese that's stuck burns a bit, waiting until it stops smoking and then repeating so that it never catches fire or starts smoking out of control, until eventually the toaster can run without smoking.

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Typical Jerry, just trying to get Tom in trouble

And making the game less enjoyable for everyone else at the same time :(

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The mission, the nightmares... they’re finally... over

We call them "toe-dippers" - people who turn up with no desire to actually get involved with the community and just post random memes with no relation to the topic of the server

Fun fact: the s was added to island in the 16th century as a mistake because grammarians added an s to isle to make it look more like the Latin insula, even though there was no s sound in either island or isle.

The answer is of course that neither is better really. As a Brit, there are plenty of British and American accents that I find annoying or unpleasant to listen to, but that's all subjective. Just go with whatever you want, and remember that any native speaker's accent is valid.

And it burns, burns, burns

Perfect post to pee to

Putin ist so 1 Pimmel

They won't be if Putin keeps sending them to die in Ukraine

"I was just following orders"

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about salvaging a toaster that you've accidentally got cheese in and can't use anymore.

Slavic liquid metathesis moment

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AfDler in Germany

6 months up front

However, real grammar and prescribed textbook grammar are two different things.

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I miss the good old days of surreal memes. Meme man and orang fighting against each other across an arbitrary and unpredictable universe, questioning the fabric of reality, surreality and irreality, all while striving to avoid eternal yamnation.

So basically your argument is that an accent or dialect is only valid if it can be understood by people from outside that speech community? German and English both have the same linguistic origins, but they are not mutually intelligible. Does that make either or both invalid ways of speaking? Do you realise that phonological changes are a perfectly natural part of linguistic evolution and, given enough time, speakers of dialect X and dialect Y can stop being able to understand each other? Yes, you can code-switch to make yourself more understandable to speakers of another dialect, but that's generally what you do when the differences between the two dialects are big enough that you feel the need to change the entire manner in which you speak.

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So in Slavonic linguistics, there's a sound change known as the Slavic liquid metathesis, which is what gives us South Slavic forms like grad (town) as in Belgrad, as opposed to East Slavic forms, like gorod, as in Belgorod.

The reconstructed ancestor of gorod and grad is *gord (in historical linguistics, an asterisk indicates a reconstructed form). Due to changes in syllable boundary rules in the Slavic language of the day (roughly 8th/9th century AD), you could no longer have two consonants at the end of a syllable, so *gord had to change. In East Slavic, this was solved by adding an extra vowel to break up the consonant cluster, giving us gorod. In South and West Slavic, this was done by moving the /r/ sound to the onset (start) of the syllable (and the vowel was also changed), giving us grad. The "liquid" part of the name refers to "liquid" sounds, /r/ and /l/, since this particular process applied to them.

It almost looks like this is what's going on here, although not quite. It would have to be gulgulg > gluglug to count as liquid metathesis, but the l and u switched around, which is good enough for me. Plus there's the pun with liquid and water.

Hopefully that at least somewhat explains the joke. I don't know if it's very clear.

...okay, you're technically correct, but they want to so they're gonna do that anyways

The o-grade is alive and well

Also accents are not people "choosing" to speak another way. It's just a result of linguistic change.

People when they find out different accents exist: >:(

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Wish I could be this cool

Based

Never trunst orang

Okay, I looked it up, and it seems I was getting confused with the Australian weak vowel merger; the pin/pen merger is actually in some American accents

What? How is that the conclusion you're drawing here? As a side note, I have learnt and can speak German and have lived and studied in Germany. But more importantly, I feel like we're having two entirely different conversations. My understanding of your argument is that it is invalid to put down potentially confusing pronunciation differences down to accents. Please correct me if I have misunderstood what you're saying. My argument is that this is just a natural linguistic process and differing pronunciations even to the point of confusion between dialects is inevitable. If someone's dialect/accent truly does cause communication problems, then a workaround needs to found, whether that's rewording things so that confusion caused by pronunciation is averted, or by code-switching to a common dialect in more extreme cases. Neither of these invalidates either dialect or accent. People speak differently, and no matter how strange it might sound, it's just something you have to get over.

Feel like I've seen this in Tbilisi before. Where was this one?

I mean, in Australian accents, pen and pin are pronounced the same. That doesn't make their accent invalid.

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Oh, so you mean the whole of the contemporary field of linguistics?