andobando

@andobando@lemmy.world
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I am working on this. But I need help, shoot me a message if you're interested. https://github.com/ando818/lemmy-ui-svelte

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I don't think the federation in itself is an issue. We just need to figure out how to present it, and integrate everything.

Being a moderator on the jailbait subreddit, a community for sharing sexually suggestive pictures of underage teenage girls

This one is a lie, he was added as a moderator by another mod, at a time when anyone could do so. Lets please stop spreading this.

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Nah I disagree. Turning things less serious is not necessarily a bad thing. People will visit to check it out but long term it will get stale and die off.

I don't think it's a lie, but it highlights that revenue is all they're thinking about.

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God why is everyone on reddit a cynical asshole?

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This is such a good point. Reddit nor any of the other giants can surpass the ability of open source. If this works out it will prove a very fundamental shift in tech.

Agree, let them do whatever they want.

If this place turns into rage bait content like reddit Im out. Way too nice outside to deal with cynical assholes to discuss irrelevant stuff that has no real impact

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Just added the Apache License.

Goals:

  1. Better UI (I am aiming for old.reddit) for lemmy with a new design (repetitive icons, hard to distinguish comments, terrible mobile UI) and fixing common issues, like freezing, spinners loading forever, etc.
  2. Single codebase for web, native Android and iOS apps. This is possible with Svelte + Capacitor.
  3. Svelte codebase which I believe will be far easier to develop on.
  4. Rethink how communities are browsed/integrated as alluded to in this post. This is my end goal, but I need to have some discussions about what this will exactly look like.

My current goal is to just get the site working with all/most of the existing functionality. For that there is a lot to do. Profile/settings page, comment replies, community browser/subscriptions to name a few.

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Whats the matter professor? Nothings the matter fry, now that I turbocharged the matter compressor

It depends on what happens next. Short term there definitely isn't any harm. Longer term if the content stays as is it gets stale and dies. On the other hand if the people keep finding creative ways of posting content in this "new" format it seems like it breathes life into the site*___*

It seems like Jerboa uses GPLv3 as well, as does Bitwarden and some other open source apps. Its probably ok though it seems like it can run into trouble way down the line. Im going to keep the GPLv3 for now.

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Nah that is most likely very true. If they go public that would also be quite obvious as they have to release all their financials. A lot of giant organizations are not/were not making money for a long time, including Snapchat, Twitter, Uber, etc.

There is a huge cost to running these things.

Why do people care about preserving their "identity" and posts so much? This was never a thing in the old internet.

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What I hate about those award crap is they basically gave you a paid way to highlight the fuck out of posts with changing the background, making it shoot rockets, or whatever else.

The amount of work getting done is directly proportional to the amount of people at a company

This is absolutely not true.

This is one of the most well known writings on software. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

Besides, its not just about efficiency, but about scope and use of resources. In economic boom cycles there is more capital to play around with non-essential ideas. When that access to capital dries up, so does viability of keeping extra resources for things that are not essential.

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I like this about the reddit UI where you can click anywhere on the vertical bar to collapse them. Collapse should be easier than the tiny button imo

Not my intention, but understood Ill just remove the link

Im not sure what you're saying. Personally I want to avoid one huge centralized "community" as it no longer ceases to be a community.

It makes sense to me that different userbases have different /r/funny with different content that they find funny. Otherwise you just have one appeal to the lowest common denominator content.

He did not

Hey! This looks awesome. Im a programmer working on a UI. I would really really really like to use this and work with you on completing my project.

For what its worth, the domain has nothing to do with the project. Its just my personal site for testing

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Do you have any proof of that or are you just making shit up cause thats the first time I even heard anyone say that.

I would doubt this. Your server is essentially another client

Right now its just fetching from lemmy.world. But I have my own instance on the same server as the front end client I can point it to.

There is nothing explicitly sinister there. I liked everyone there, everyone was really nice. In a sense that highlights the issue that this is an inherent problem with corporations. No one was explicitly trying to do harm, in fact people were trying to do good in terms of bringing saftey for women, advertising for racial/trans equality, etc. The problem I see is everyone is so focused on growing the platform and profits, that no one is thinking about what theyre doing wrong.

There are no explicit algorithmic tricks either, and there doesnt even need to be. The matching algorithm is actually dead on simple. But because the core metrics are profits and user engagement, even the corp running random experiments will end up naturally turning the platform more and more into a cash cow, with no regard or care as to what its doing to people.

What I mean is there doesn't need to be a room full of people thinking about how to exploit peoples psychology to use the app more, just the fact that the core goal of the whole organization is to make money, any actions it takes will naturally lead to that. If there's ever a compromise between humane values or profits, it will be profits.

I love SvelteKit. I am a backend dev myself, but this framework made me really get into UI development, just so much easier.

What do you mean by the cors restrictions? I am hosting the front end on the same domain as my backend (just like the lemmy UI) so there shouldn't be any issues there.

I've been thinking about this.

I am thinking essentially the solution is the equivalent of multi reddits. In the UI, either from the user perspective, or the server admin perspective, you can setup communities that are just aggregations of different communities.

Then a user can choose to browse /c/cats which is actually just /c/cats from lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, etc as one feed.

That makes sense, but I am failing to see the issue. As long as one instance, or any single user from one instance makes that instance aware of the existence of another instance (currently by pasting the url of that instance in the community search), that is now visible and discoverable to all users.

Or worst case, your instance calls some aggregator, like browse.feddit.de to fetch all known instances.

All I am asking for a better UI for viewing content across these instances. What that looks like I am not totally sure. > Communities

I mean if you look at https://lemmy.world/communities/listing_type/All/page/1, you can already see a bunch of communities from other instances

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Ah, my ide auto pulls in imports sometimes. Thank you

The power user base is still there. 96+% of the site has effectively remained

  1. Sign up at lemmy.world.
  2. Done

No need to explain all the other crap

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I think so too, however we need some discoverability of these instances. At the very least we should be able to easily search for and subscribe to communities from different instances, and have some UI to easily navigate these.

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No need to be pro. Can always make a pull request and get feedback, good way to learn so if you're feeling up for it at all give it a shot!

Oh one more example.

Tinder advertised a ton globally with the message of "Single, Not Sorry". Does Tinder know if being single is actually good for everyone? Is this a message you'd blatantly tell all your friends without knowing them? If there was a study saying this was harmful, would they care enough, cut back and tell people to use the app less/more considerably? No because like I said, if it interferes with profits, these kind of considerations will never be talked about.

Few other things. We released a feature where you pay $3 to see if someone responded to you, and the other user would know. Clearly you're fucking yourself over doing that but they don't care. We released a feature where you can see if someone is online, because it increases engagement.

You'd never see shit like this in any organization or community run by people.

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How the fuck can you paywall LIKES? Oh btw the whole "gold" feature for example, absolutely useless. They charged $5 a more for a lie. The feature would tell you who liked you, not mentioned is that if someone likes you they'll be in the top of your list of people to scroll so its absolutely useless lol.

This is why I’m so blatant on actually moving to federated services. These do not need to be run by megacorps since costs can be distributed through instances.

Me too, really hoping this stuff works out.

Late projects is just a theme used to convey the core ideas, as it is a common thinking/pitfall, but the reasoning of why late projects because later equally apply to initial software estimates.

The core idea is that software cannot be simple divided into "man months". That is, saying this software will take 80 manhours, and therefore 10 engineers can do it in 10 days, and a 80 engineers could do it in a day. The reasoning being 1. Software tasks are complex and not easily partitioned, and 2. Software projects require a lot of communication and the more people you have the communication channels needed greatly increase. Essentially what happens is when you have too many people, more time is spent communicating what needs to be done and whose going to do it than doing the actual work.

In any case, efficiency is not really relevant because what happens in layoffs typically, is that entire teams/projects/or initiatives are dismantled. So its not about serving the same projects with less people, but reprioritizing whats essential.

I just replaced it with images, I apologize.

Absolutely. And as much as I am saying this, I would love to see a proven alternative to massive corporate tech. I worked at one of these companies before, and I despise the them with a passion

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Which one? And how was your experience?

Tinder. It was and probably still is, a great place to work. One day at the height of BLM, someone posted an article how another one of Match's companies was removing ethnicity filters in their app to keep out racists. I said wait, who are we to making these kind of societal decisions? Why are we removing users personal decisions because we don't like it? It turned out into a huge argument but it got me really thinking. Were not philosophers, sociologists, etc. Its a couple people from a very certain background making decisions that affect millions of people globally. Who are we to decide?

Then I thought about the fact that these kind of decisions were not even made for ethical reasons (which I don't even trust them to get correct), but were fueled entirely by money. Every single decision was entirely based on how much money it earns Tinder, with zero regard as to how it affects its users, in a very personal and important aspect of their lives. All the KPIs were money, internal projects called "Project Whale", zero discussions on relationships, experiments to get users addicted to the app as possible, etc.

If there ever was a decision that would help people but would compromise profits, profits will win, and if there ever is a concern that a decision is hurting users, it wont ever enter into the discussion.

Reddit, facebook, Tinder, Twitter, etc is all the same in this regard. Corporate tech is a terrible future.

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