chebra

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@cbarrick How many clients exist for Zulip?

@something_random_tho @lqwlxxxdxq

You should make an account on openstreetmap.org and modify the map to make it select a better route. You are part of the ecosystem of open-source software and crowd-sourced data.

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@OsrsNeedsF2P But that's the problem we need to fix, not the reason to give up. There will be more people on Gitea and Matrix if you try. There is also more people on Reddit and Twitter, yet here we are.

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@MasterPain We don't need another instant messaging protocol. We need to fix the interoperability bugs in the existing clients and servers. "Modern replacements" are just making the problem worse.

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@vrighter @ylai
That is a really bad analogy. If the "compilation" takes 6 months on a farm of 1000 GPUs and the results are random, then the dataset is basically worthless compared to the model. Datasets are easily available, always were, but if someone invests the effort in the training, then they don't want to let others use the model as open-source. Which is why we want open-source models. But not "openwashed" where they call it "open" for non-commercial, no modifications, no redistribution

@makeasnek Does BOINC have any verification or protection from malicious actors finishing the work incorrectly just to get through the captcha? If not, this might actually poison the BOINC network, because bad people will have a motivation to get credits without performing the work.

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@makeasnek @chris

I have a whole list in my bookmarks:
- everybody knows Tailscale (and Headscale)
- Slack Nebula
- NetBird
- NetMaker
- ZeroTier
- OpenZiti
- Wesher
- PineCone
- n2n
- weron
- innernet
- vpncloud
- tinc (the OG)

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sure, only available to the cool people

@7heo taking the term "open source" literally as just open for reading (not open for modification, distribution etc..) that's only what big monopolistic corporations want you to believe. They've been attempting to redefine the term for many years. Before they started this campaign it was pretty clear to everyone that open source means one of the OSI licenses. Think about it, if it was only about readability, then all javascript would be technically open source. The mixup is artificial.

@mormund It's not about the privacy of the code, but the privacy of the users clicking on github and then reading some news. They aggregate behavioral data about you.

> the only thing that can be lost are issues and pull request histories

"Only"?? That's a HUGE problem. That's exactly one of the walls keeping people inside github. Git protocol could distribute that, but it doesn't suit the commercial platform's interests -> go to open platforms instead.

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@willya I'm actually amazed such interoperability works, it just needs better tools for catching the spam.

@cyclohexane Yes, but.. For many people, the appeal of open source has nothing to do with how easy it is for corporations. So any license that limit "corporate leech" is NOT FOSS because FOSS is about having no such limits. At the same time FOSS doesn't say you can't charge money, because FOSS is NOT about restricting profit.

@cyclohexane @x1gma

> It is about transparency, the ability to contribute, and the community driven product as a result. It is about the ability to pick up the project if the original developer stops using it, even decades later. It’s about the ease of interfacing with said software.

That's... exactly what the FSF and OSI definitions are all about.

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@Kushia 🤷‍♂️ I have the opposite situation, nobody I care about is on discord. So discord sucks? See the thing is if one matrix guy wants to talk to one discord guy, one of them needs to install a new app. And I think the world would be better if we all had more free/libre apps and less walled gardens, so I will strongly resist installing discord. Just yet another proprietary walled garden waiting for the rug-pull. Why? Just convince the other guy to use Matrix and over time our world will improve

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@otter ouch, so that's even worse than I realized. I'm still getting some spam from the small abandoned M instances but only when it mentions the L name and it looks like even when it gets deleted from L, it still stays on the M side. I have spam posts in my timeline many hours old. This is bad because it looks like the only way to avoid them is to unfollow the community or block all spammers individually by myself.

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@SNFi Woodpecker passed 1.0 recently and it's much better. Try it again.

@xilliah It's not free though. It came with licenses. And LLMs don't have the capability to "study", they are just a glorified random word generator.

@shnizmuffin @Zen

Issues, milestones, discussions, pull requests, build logs, they all stay on the chosen host. That host can then add specific conditions to creating accounts, or participating in the discussion, searching code etc. Such as force you to have a phone number in your account, otherwise you won't be able to comment on issues. And all of these things might be locked in without a way to export and migrate to another host, so yes, it definitely matters where the project is hosted.

@FuckyWucky @corvus

If I have to choose between having a corrupt inefficient financial system with thousands of middlemen, vs this guy yelling at me his nonsense.. I'm choosing this guy yelling at me.

@Faresh 1.) Making it easier to analyze. There are multiple steps in the whole process which may be hiding an exploit. The "tarball-not-same-as-git" is a clear example. Sure, reviewing will still be necessary and it will still be difficult, but it doesn't have to be as difficult as today. 2.) stop giving maintainer rights, fork instead. That's what pull requests are for. 3.) we should be careful if our critical infrastructure depends on a hobby project - either pay, or don't depend.

@SorteKanin I'd like to see that. I have already onboarded about 35 students and my whole family to matrix, nobody had any problems with signup. Bigger problem is later if they get the infamous "Unable to decrypt message" error.

@podified

Now how many of them are not actually open source?

@otter I've seen other instance admins discussing that certain way of removal federates, but other doesn't. I don't know the specifics. Deleting from lemmy db directly doesn't federate, it clears it on that particular instance, but it makes it worse for others. https://slrpnk.net/comment/6287249

@something_random_tho The pathfinding algorithm is in the client app (like Organic Maps) and the data are in openstreetmap. Different apps can find different paths and there is not much we can do about it, because changing the pathfinding algorithm could break it for many other places. That's why I would rather modify the data, such as marking roads unsuitable for bikes, or making sure the nodes are properly connected, adding speed limits, road surface types... nudge the algo into the right path

@flying_sheep

> nobody lives in abject poverty. But it also prevents people from getting rich quick by milking their own people

lol.. no.. not at all

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@jnk @Mikina

Legal yes. But sadly not FOSS. The Llama models from Meta are basically "free to use by anyone except our competitors"

@isthereanydeal therefore it's not open source. See for something to be called "open source" it needs a bit more than just for the code to be readable. The only people who define open source as source readable are the people who don't want to create open source software.

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@Templa @Cubes

That sounds like a nice protection from accidentally installing unknown black box proprietary code on your computer with access to all your projects.

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@nar@maly.io @nar@lemmy.ml And this is how it looks on the mastodon side, for anyone wondering: https://mstdn.io/@chebra/111950837765992663

I think the federation sometimes takes a couple of minutes, I saw this lemmy thread through two lemmy instances, and they showed different comments. Eventually it should synchronize though. And mastodon posts older than a week usually aren't shown through other than the poster's main instance.

@taladar Discussed in other threads here - forgejo.org is implementing forgefed which will do this, it's a work in progress, monthly reports here https://forgejo.org/tag/report/

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@flying_sheep probably yes, but if you are looking for a country where people are not living in poverty, where the state takes good care about them or where scammers can't get rich quick, then Vietnam is unfortunately not it.

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@not_amm And I think Keepass (XC) has a merge function which can very easily resolve these conflicts.

@makeasnek When I found out how easy it is to send Bitcoin on F-Droid, I started sending a couple of bucks each month to the apps I use. I wish donating was always this easy, more people would do it.

@Alphane_Moon @makeasnek

> you shouldn’t even try sending transactions valued more than a few hundred dollars

this is true about all of the alternatives too, Lightning is just the only one honest about it. And as someone who's been using lightning to pay my phone bills, I can say it works ok.

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in that case you are doing the whole "no-coding" all wrong. If you really need something that cannot be done by connecting the nodes and grouping them in flows, then instead of developing new function nodes, develop your own contrib packages. But there are a lot of existing packages, so maybe you don't need even that.

@Kushia Of course I am. Now I would appreciate if you didn't come to the open-source community telling everyone how bad they are and that they are never gonna make it. That's a pretty shit move man. Cheers.

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@graphito

wait what?

https://github.com/beeper/self-host

> Beeper Clients

> Native iOS and Android clients (closed source forks of Element iOS and Android)
Mac OS, Windows and Linux clients (closed source forks of Element Web/Desktop)

How can an Apache-2.0 licensed project be forked as closed source?

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@pelespirit Not complicated at all. Llama is simply not open-source, the text of the license is in direct conflict with the meaning of open-source and any definition of that term.

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