Don't know how others are seeing the image with your post, but for me, the thumbnail is squinched up horizontally, making the little Reddit dude look like a naked dementor standing on a burning hellscape. Or maybe I'm just projecting a little...
Don't know how others are seeing the image with your post, but for me, the thumbnail is squinched up horizontally, making the little Reddit dude look like a naked dementor standing on a burning hellscape. Or maybe I'm just projecting a little...
Anyone who feels their Reddit experience is being ruined can create new subs to host the content they want to see, and I encourage them to do so. I guarantee it will be an educational experience, especially for anyone who's never been a mod.
Modding aside, my experience of Discord is that it's great if you want to use it like a chatroom, but it sucks if you're trying to search for information. I wouldn't think Discord would work well for something like legal advice.
I actually think it will be much bigger. I'd be surprised if there aren't a lot of users in the wait-and-see-how-bad-it's-really-going-to-be camp, although they probably won't start showing up until a few days after the 1st.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them do, right around July 1. It's good to see some of them are already setting up new communities in the Fediverse. Hope that catches on.
I'm thinking Reddit's handling of this is going to be a case study for executive MBA programs in the future, as in, "What not to do."
My take: the letter does a good job of stating the grievances and position of the moderators and should be referenced in future articles about the Reddit protests. And, although it's well-written and well-intentioned, it's not going to work because Reddit hasn't been dealing in good faith so why would they start now?
Reddit will mistakenly take this letter as a sign of weakness and not perceive it as what it truly is: a final attempt at communication/reconciliation before walking out. The best likely response would be Reddit making some mealymouthed promises that will never be kept. It's more likely, however, that Reddit will either do nothing at all or do something new that's hostile and foolish. And it's highly likely that the moderators realize all of this, but figure there's nothing to be lost by giving it one last try.
Ad-buying traffic is roughly half of what it was pre-blackout? That's huge, and IMO should have been in the article's headline.
A little searching with DuckDuckGo reveals that this tweet was made in January 2023. Not sure whether it's also bot-vomited from a previous instance of the same remark. It's telling that the r/all post doesn't link to the tweet or give a date.
ETA a link to the tweet in question: https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1617333819660718081
Reddit isn't going anywhere lol.
Yeah, and Usenet's still around, but I don't regret having left it in the 90s.
Here's the text of the open letter:
As promised, here’s what the r/PICS moderators would like to say to Reddit’s administrators:
Forging A Return to Productive Conversation
To All Whom It May Concern:
For fifteen years, r/Pics has been one of Reddit’s most-popular communities. That time hasn’t been without its difficulties, but for the most part, we’ve all gotten along (with each other and with administrators). Members of our team fondly remember Moderator Roadshows, visits to Reddit’s headquarters, Reddit Secret Santa, April Fools’ Day events, regional meetups, and many more uplifting moments. We’ve watched this platform grow by leaps and bounds, and although we haven’t been completely happy about every change that we’ve witnessed, we’ve always done our best to work with Reddit at finding ways to adapt, compromise, and move forward.
This process has occasionally been preceded by some exceptionally public debate, however.
On June 12th, 2023, r/Pics joined thousands of other subreddits in protesting the planned changes to Reddit’s API; changes which – despite being immediately evident to only a minority of Redditors – threatened to worsen the site for everyone. By June 16th, 2023, that demonstration had evolved to represent a wider (and growing) array of concerns, many of which arose in response to Reddit’s statements to journalists. Today (June 26th, 2023), we are hopeful that users and administrators alike can make a return to the productive dialogue that has served us in the past.
We acknowledge that Reddit has placed itself in a situation that makes adjusting its current API roadmap impossible.
However, we have the following requests:
Commit to exploring ways by which third-party applications can make an affordable return.
Commit to providing moderation tools and accessibility options (on Old Reddit, New Reddit, and mobile platforms) which match or exceed the functionality and utility of third-party applications.
Commit to prioritizing a significant reduction in spam, misinformation, bigotry, and illegal content on Reddit.
Guarantee that any future developments which may impact moderators, contributors, or stakeholders will be announced no less than one fiscal quarter before they are scheduled to go into effect.
Work together with longstanding moderators to establish a reasonable roadmap and deadline for accomplishing all of the above.
Affirm that efforts meant to keep Reddit accountable to its commitments and deadlines will hereafter not be met with insults, threats, removals, or hostility.
Publicly affirm all of the above by way of updating Reddit’s User Agreement and Reddit’s Moderator Code of Conduct to include reasonable expectations and requirements for administrators’ behavior.
Implement and fill a senior-level role (with decision-making and policy-shaping power) of "Moderator Advocate" at Reddit, with a required qualification for the position being robust experience as a volunteer Reddit moderator.
Reddit is unique amongst social-media sites in that its lifeblood – its multitude of moderators and contributors – consists entirely of volunteers. We populate and curate the platform’s many communities, thereby providing a welcoming and engaging environment for all of its visitors. We receive little in the way of thanks for these efforts, but we frequently endure abuse, threats, attacks, and exposure to truly reprehensible media. Historically, we have trusted that Reddit’s administrators have the best interests of the platform and its users (be they moderators, contributors, participants, or lurkers) at heart; that while Reddit may be a for-profit company, it nonetheless recognizes and appreciates the value that Redditors provide.
That trust has been all but entirely eroded… but we hope that together, we can begin to rebuild it.
In simplest terms, Reddit, we implore you: Remember the human.
We look forward to your response by Thursday, June 29th, 2023.
There’s also just one other thing.
that "one other thing" is a hyperlink to a picture of multiple John Olivers standing behind a sign reading "We Demand To Be Taken Seriously".
A couple of weeks ago, I realized how things were likely to play out, and that I'd end up leaving Reddit. I wasn't looking forward to it, but I knew it would be necessary. The shitty way spez has handled things turned me from a reluctant ship-jumper into an enthusiastic one.
It's going to be rough in a few weeks when even more Redditors jump ship, but we'll get through the chaos.
They didn't even bother to do an email for the trophy case. /facepalm
Get a red paint marker and put the universal "no" sign on it??
Show of hands: how many of you got a mental image of a cocktail party after reading "walks, drinks and socializes"?
You would think that Reddit would have put some new mods in there right away (even if those "new mods" were just socks being staffed by Reddit employees) to put pressure on other subreddits.
"Last Summer Tonight with John Oliver"
I'm thinking AI-generated based on similar past topics.
I... don't really care? This isn't Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Saying that spez has been sacked ain't gonna fix things.
It "makes sense" if you view Reddit by looking only at the total number of Reddit users and not considering differing levels of engagement. If you've got tens of millions of people subscribed to a sub, it's easy to let your ego take the wheel and say, "Fuck 'em! So what if we lose a million users? We've got plenty more!"
It doesn't make sense if you realize that the "users" most likely to be alienated by your actions are the moderators and regular contributors whose participation creates the community of that subreddit. You've got the mods, who handle the bombthrowers, and the regular contributors who shape the sub in their own way by being mostly on-topic and mostly helpful. They're often the ones who throw the ball back into the ring before the mods have to step in, and some of them are pretty entertaining, too.
IMO, Reddit is likely to lose a disproportionate share of mods and power users and spez doesn't get that. I think he believes all users are fungible, and they're not. He thinks he can tough this out and things will blow over. He's wrong. Reddit won't disappear, any more than Twitter has, but I sure as hell wouldn't buy stock when the IPO happens. If it happens.
The die was cast when Reddit decided to put the 3rd party apps out of business. Doubling down on that is only accelerating the decline. We've now reached the point where even if Reddit did some serious backpedaling, it wouldn't get some of its content creators back.
We're rolling up on a Touch Grass Tuesday???
im not saying blocking from responding im saying I disapear to them and they to me.
That's a hard no. Blocking is for curating your experience, not someone else's.
Don't delete your account until you're sure you've wiped everything, including stuff that's more than 1000 comments old and stuff that's in private subs (which have to be public for you to edit/delete). TBH, I wouldn't delete your account at all at this time... just wipe it and walk away. That way, if you check back later and your comments have been restored, you can trash them again.
I wonder if editing/deleting comments counts as "traffic".
Here's the URL of the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14cr2is/alternative\_forms\_of\_protest\_in\_light\_of\_admin/
and here's the text of the message:
Greetings all,
We've started the protest this Monday, in solidarity with numerous people who need access to the API, including bot developers, people with accessibility needs (r/blind) and 3rd party app users (Apollo, Sync, and many more). r/humor in particular has made a great post regarding protesting in support of the blind people.
Despite numerous past policies and statements, in support of the mods' right to protest, we have witnessed many attempts this weeks to force subreddits to open (examples: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7).
In light of this, we recommend to all those supporting this cause that you take the following steps:
review other softer forms of protest (some of them mentioned here);
take appropriate measures to consult with your community;
decide on a course of action, that complies with the ever more draconian admin policies, but still helps send the message that reddit needs to do better on the list of our community demands.
Here is a short list of actions that many subs are already engaging in:
private days (example - Touch Grass Tuesdays, or on the weekends);
restricting the topic of the forum (example: restricting to just pictures or gifs of one personality );
narrowing the topic of your forum (see the example of r/Wellthatsucks;
widening the topic of your forum (see the example of r/interestingasfuck);
marking the subreddit temporarily NSFW or switching to allowing NSFW content. Changing this setting should not be taken lightly (it would be against the TOS); however, if content in your sub happens to also include "nudity, pornography, or profanity", please take appropriate steps to warn users, including temporarily marking your community as NSFW. This has the undesirable effect of reducing your community's reach and visibility but, per the Moderator Code of Conduct, it is our duty as moderators to ensure the safety of those viewing our content and provide appropriate warning to anyone who may incidentally view any mature content (see the example of r/Toyota)
linkedin campaign - commenting on the linkedin posts of reddit with info about this protest (demands, and how reddit admins punished protesting mods);
inform reddit advertisers of the current issues;
modifying image posts requirements (all image posts must include an album, and the first picture must be protest-related);
prepare moving the forum to another platform:
https://kbin.social/
https://join-lemmy.org/
https://squabbles.io/
https://tildes.net/;
promote reddit alternatives in the sidebar;
content as usual in an open sub, but the title includes protest language;
remove all sub rules and let the community curate content through up-/downvotes;
open sub and pin anti-staff message (list of unfulfilled promises, terrible decisions), and add to sidebar;
automod sticky on every thread promoting Reddit alternatives;
have automod make scheduled posts about the protest;
increase the age and karma posting requirements through automod;
turn off discovery settings, and popping up on r/all.
As usual:
do not allow or promote harassment of people or communities;
do not allow illegal content, or content that breaks TOS.
We have to work within the limits imposed by reddit, but there is still plenty of ways to get the message to reddit and mass media about the important issues of the protest, that will affect the quality of content on reddit, how people with disabilities can access the site and how mods can fulfill their duties.
I used to be a volunteer moderator for a non-reddit site. I did it because I liked the place and wanted to keep the asshattery down to a dull roar so the people who weren't shitposting would stick around.
If she moved the trial back now, the Fulton county case would slot it right after the DC prosecution because Fani Willis wants to go to trial ASAP. I'm curious to see what sort of trial date she gets... she might even try for something before March on the off chance the DC trial gets delayed by interlocutory appeals.
Everything I've seen thus far is typical of the early days when a contingent of people leave a platform they were once invested in but have left because they were unhappy/dissatisfied...
there will be different perceptions of the abandoned platform, and the larger it was, the bigger the spectrum will be. Reddit was huge; where you hung out is going to shape your impressions of how good/bad it was.
there will be people eager to recreate the communities they enjoyed, and they'll be looking for something just like what they left
there will be people eager to try something totally different
there will be people hurt and angry by the event(s) that caused them to leave, and that will be expressed in different ways, and for different lengths of time. During the initial transition, the former site will be mentioned--a lot--and often with anger/bitterness. Over time, that dissipates, although there will be some people bitching about the old platform until the heat death of the universe. Basically, how you react to shitty things IRL will be echoed here, because guess what? This is another facet of RL.
Most people just want things to work, and once they've become accustomed to a platform, they're reluctant to learn a new one. Especially if it's just getting off the ground. It wouldn't surprise me at all if a lot of the early adopters here have gone through this before and know that things will get better (in terms of functionality as well as content) as time goes on.
This is nothing. July's going to be insane.
Like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grWgQChzDqQ
I like you and you like him and he likes somebody else
The three of us, so full of votes
And yet, we're all on the shelf
'Round and 'round we keep on clickin'
There's only bots left in this frickin'
Subreddit that's slowly come unglued
A circle of snoo
I wish that we could take a break
'Cause even bots get bored
But redditors keep fucking off
To the Fediverse or Discord
So on and on we keep on postin'
To hide that users have been ghostin'
Who wants spam that isn't even new?
A circle of snoo
A circle of snoo
That's filled with so much glurge
A circle of snoo
Can't someone do a purge?
But on and on we keep on postin'
To hide that users have been ghostin'
Who wants spam that isn't even new?
A circle of snoo
(edited to finish the song because if you're going to set something to an Archies tune, why not go for maximum suffering?)
They weren't working for Reddit; they were working for their community.
Giving this post a signal boost: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/59451/Finally-Managed-to-erase-all-1477-of-my-comments#comments
On the other hand, it makes spammy articles from content farms the primary resource to find answers.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but Reddit is a spammy content farm, too.
There's a curious sameness to many of the anti-protest comments. If it's not a bot, it's a group of people working off the same script.
That's a trick question, @dismalnow. spez doesn't actually work; being a lying asshole is a natural talent requiring no effort on his part.
There's more than one kind of fan. Just sayin'
Drugs, man, drugs.
LOL, that's how Reddit's traffic is "back to normal".