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I'd add shelters to the list if you can't immediately get direct travel to family. Many provide support services as well which can help you on your next steps.

this is just incorrect on so many levels.

first off: if you consistently vote for a candidate no matter what they do then they can write you off.

No politician is going to pay a group that plays hard to get much heed.

imagine thinking drawing a line at 'genocide' is playing hard to get. my god the bar is so low. no wonder we dont have any fucking working class rights. thanks, you definitely know what your doing.

There’s a reason causes championed by Black women always feature fairly heavily in the Democratic Party platform.

yes. do tell. how exactly have the democrats have targetted black women issues specifically? go on I'll wait.

The real issue is democrats get funding from the 1% and are unwilling to promote worker rights. that's why they write off the left base issues. fortunately for them the left has been bolstering them regardless every election for decades despite this because republicans would literally murder people for being different. And that generally continues, even right now with harris.

If you look at the policies from harris' campaign and compare it to 2016/2020.

• no healthcare reform mostly just give aways to insurance companies through tax credits.
• no minimum wage increase.
• wont commit to keeping kahn the most effective FTC chair in more than 4 decades.
• wont commit to supporting striking workers.
• no mandated PTO/Sick leave for workers.

seems more corporate friendly than worker friendly to me. then add in a genocide on top and completely dismissing a minority group because they are inconvenient and here we are.

What left wing people are really telling you:

• vote for what you think is best. If you're in a safe state go wild on third party candidates. swing state? probably better off w/ harris.
• let your reps know that your vote is at risk if the genocide continues post election. and then follow through in the next cycle.

What about all the innocent women who are dying in our country because of who trump appointed to the supreme court and the result was the overturning roe vs wade?

See state ballot initiatives. they've been far more effective in 4 years than democratic presidents and congress critters have in 5 decades.

What about the kids who get massacred in school shootings because Trump and people like him won’t support increased gun control legislation?

see above.

What about all the innocent people of color who have been killed by police? Do they matter to you?

see above. biden and harris support the police remember? they actively fought against police reforms.

If trump gets into the office not only will the Palestinian people be far worse off, so will every group I mentioned above and more.

yes that is unfortunately true, maybe you should inform harris to change her position on genocide to ensure the other groups are not put at risk over her hubris? On the flip side its a lot easier to protect the groups you're white knighting for in your local community via your local reps and processes and your own personal actions.

Maybe you should realize you can in many states safely vote third party for president and democrats down ballot and essentially have the same national outcome while simultaneously undercutting the genocide harris is dead set on committing. thereby giving left wing congress critters more leverage with harris post election.

What you are really telling everyone here is that you are unwilling to give up a bit of your privileged lifestyle over a little bit of genocide. That says more about you than it does about the individuals withholding their support from harris.

wow you just ignore that biden wanted to give them the weapons anyways. you see its a little thing called providing cover. Biden didn't fight against it because he wanted to give isreal the weapons.

Dont disagree ive been actively campaigning for rcv etc in my state for years. Thankfully i can do two things at the same time.

it'd be a poor course it empirically incorrect on a number of counts.

I love watching you work @TheOubliette@lemmy.ml. note taking though I still going to be more of an ass than you are to people.

Welcome to the brotherhood of being a human being, though I suspect you've been here for some time. we respect your choice to vote for harris.

They were joking. Also CGP grey didnt cover things like how fptp is influenced by there being multiple branches of government, having the electoral college in the mix, etc.

While it's a great video its overly simplistic to apply to america. While i believe fptp has to go. You absolutely can vote third party safely without risking trump if the conditions are right and they often are in the us there are few battle ground states where it's higher risk

snicker someone doesn't know how voting works clearly when living in a blue/red state.

also can someone find me a rabies shot? this one is foaming at the mouth.

However I understand the importance of this election and I understand how our system works.

your actions say otherwise. you understand what you want to avoid. but you don't know how to actually avoid it.

Voting 3rd party does nothing but pull votes from Democrats.

does it? i've never seen evidence of this. I've seen 3rd party candidate pull enough votes that if they were applied to democrats they would have won. But there is no evidence those votes would have gone to the democrat if the third party was absent. This is a fiction you've made up in your head to appease your ego and to place blame on others.

What really is happening here is you're upset that your candidate lost and you want to blame others instead of the candidate for being a horrible human. Harris can fix her genocidal chains, she won't, but she could. And worse if she does lose then the entire basis of you voting for the lesser evil is proven ineffectual further damaging your self image because now not only did the evil you wish to prevent succeeded, but you compromised your morals and enabled a genocide.

Its a shame really the lies we tell ourselves.

Because its the same shit. passkeys are essentially passwordless ssh certificates. we've had functional MFA for ssh literally since its inception.

No one is asking her to do anything as VP, this person is saying harris is committed to enabling israel's genocide and has a history of supporting israel unconditionally. we want her to commit to upholding american laws around not supplying arms genocidal regimes as president; which israel categorically is currently. literally every organization that has investigated israeli conduct in Gaza and now Lebanon has come to the same conclusion. The UN, WHO, our own internal analysis.

They've gone way past self defense and managed to kill more of the hostages than hamas has.

We're are not backing trump either. you just have to live without our support. if you have enough votes great. meanwhile many of these people may vote third party and vote for dems down ticket; as I did. which is still a win overall for dems, just means harris might have less votes. which if they're in a state like i am that is 20+ lean dem a non-issue for harris.

while we like bernie he doesnt control our votes. harris can re-earn our votes if she wins and about faces on the issue. if she doesnt win, well thats on her for her decisions on a number of issues that would have personally caused my vote to be cast for her. none of which she was willing to give.

I'd probably lay the majority at their feet. between turning the region into a war zone, starvation etc, the chances of them surviving the situation is close to zero. as far as wikipedia is concerned out of the 251 hostages.....

• 117 were returned by hamas in a prisoner exchange.
• 4 were released unilaterally by hamas.
• 8 were rescued by IDF.
• 34 bodies have been retrieved (likely dead due to the war zone)
• 3 bodies returned through unspecified means.

so frankly Israel's track record here for 'rescuing' the hostages is pretty abysmal. and I can't think of a worse way than to turn a region into a war zone to rescue them. so far it looks like hamas has been fairly willing to negotiate prisoner releases. who knows if thats still the case though. since you know we killed off the leader who was looking to get a peace deal. but I doubt many more are going to be returned alive after this. I feel for those families and its unfortunate their countries leadership is going to get most of them killed.

but at the end of the day it doesn't matter who killed those hostages. they're dead and nothing will change that. all I know is turning the region into a blood bath didn't help their chances.

it’s a binary choice

its not, as evidenced by the fact there are 5 options, now as we both obviously know FPTP is a horrible system and leads to a collapse of viable parties, but even in that situation you have 3 options. A,B, Neither. and I'm nethier. neither kamala nor trump have policies that i support. and trump can't impact the larger scheme of things i care about my local government prevents that.

non-participation benefits the crueler conservatives

no its a neutral stance, and you're upset that people dont care about your prefered candidate because she doesn't bring anything to the table that my state doesn't already have. if i lived in texas/florida the equation would be different but i don't and harris will easily win in my state.

And that’s the programme. It’s been explained so many fucking times that I’m not sure how “but her emails” you need to be not to get it.

but you don't get it. harris doesn't bring anything to the table. if i was an arab in michigan right now i'd be looking at her ticket and going:

• nothing to help with inflation.
• nothing to help with labor rights.
• nothing to help with corporate corruption (see above two issues).
• and shes literally willing to support killing my family and friends in the middle east.

If voting 3rd candidate gets that person to the poll booth and they vote 3rd party/blank/etc and down ticket dems vs not showing up at all. I take that as a win. Its not our fault harris, the alleged law and order candidate, wouldn't commit to enforcing the law on arms sales. if the zionists have a problem with that, well thats on them, maybe you should bitch about them being intransigent about fucking genocide.

Try to clue in before voting, okay?

already voted mate, maybe get a clue in the future on the entire system before opening your mouth. you're position only is rational by assuming there is only one office on the ballot. sadly harris didn't turn it around in time to win my vote. but thats her fault not mine. I have a laundry list of issues that if she ticket any of them personally I would have voted for her. she didn't. not my fault. genocide was just one of the ones where the ask was so small it should have been a no brainer. If the majority of the zionists are willing to support trump if harris won't sell israel weapons I don't particular care and think you should save your ire for them not me.

I'm not preventing harris from not being genocidal thats on her, I'm not stopping zionists from recognizing that israel's behavior is unconscionable, thats on them. If harris loses because of israel's behavior feel free to bitch at those voters they're the ones who caused the loss by not supporting their brothers and sisters of another faith from being subject to a genocidal war.

I'm not the one preventing us changing our voting system to ranked choice. that's on the DNC/GOP. Hell I've canvased and gathered signatures for the damn thing in my state what have you fucking done to kill the spoiler effect?

I'm simply not going to give my vote to a candidate who won't commit to supporting labor and won't commit to not committing a genocide; especially when it won't change the outcome in any manner.

Abilene effect

also what makes you think we're part of the same group? This simply doesn't apply.

edit: changed jews -> zionists, because its not the jews in america causing this problem.

Writing in a name won't invalidate a ballot, at least not in any state i'm aware of, what lead you to say that? genuinely curious.

Genocide occurs with either one. Get a clue. If you dont like it, tell your reps and stfu about peoples voting decisions. Its not your place to judge their decisions with their votes.

If harris loses because of her support for genocide thats on her for not reading the room in two of only 5 states that matter.

Sucks to be her and the Democrats but thems the breaks when your partisan and incapable of doing the right thing

people are scanning, it happens, done it myself. the problem is people are so scared of harris losing they're attacking people who have no interest in supporting harris as a result of this issue and think that will somehow get them to vote harris. shrug

if harris loses she loses and thats on her. she wants to play the law and order candidate while simultaneously not committing to upholding the laws we have on the books and enabling a genocide well thats on her.

Can't help that shes committing the same errors of judgement that biden did and we didn't support him either after he started breaking strikes and enabling genocide.

lol wow thats nonsense. (that such a rule exists) =)

Israel is an ally.

Yes, we call this 'enabling' and its bad. if my friend goes and murders someone in cold blood I don't go 'oh well they're my friend' I fucking turn them in so they can get the help they clearly need.

She can’t get those easy votes without losing votes from moderate Israel-supporters.

No one is asking her to not protect israel. but fun fact: they're not moderates if they're supporting a genocide.

Well then your actions are irrational because they do not help accomplish your goal, despite your fantasies to the contrary.

thats, like, your opinion man. all your points are around assumptions about how others will act. personally I only decide how I can act. and seems like others agree with me and not you since harris can't find votes.

Eh, she needs enough votes. She doesn’t need yours specifically. If she can’t get yours, she’ll shill to moderates to get theirs, because strategically that’s much smarter than alienating a large, reliable bloc in order to gain a portion of the much smaller, much less reliable bloc you represent.

you actually don't know that. and neither does she. shes just scared as are you. I'm about as reliable as they come for votes; I show up every year and vote for people who represent me. if there are none, I show up for the ballot initiatives and leave the candidates blank. Its hardly my fault the DNC didn't run a real primary to find the best candidate this year because we know harris wouldn't have won.

Done, like a year ago.

samesies, do it again, repeatedly this week. =) they weren't willing to do shit a year ago because they didn't need the votes. now is the time to give them permission.

This is pure nonsense. On multiple levels.

yes, pure nonesense.

not my fault harris is floundering for votes. I can't help that shes committed to a platform that has historically low approval and is unwilling to commit to anything not even a bar as low as 'not commiting genocide' shrug.

if she had a solid platform she wouldn't be floundering. I can't do anything about that except clearly broadcast my expectations to the democratic party. which i'm doing daily. you are of course free to do nothing. but harris needs votes to win and I'm letting her know how to get mine. balls in her court.

heres my fence, lets see if she can get over it!

see she could also have said: I'll happily address your concerns at the end, please feel free to stay until then. and then done so. instead they're escorted away and she never mentions the issue again. shes trying to ignore the issue and its going to cost her, maybe it costs her the election, maybe it doesn't we wont know until the votes are in. sadly it cost her my vote, but im not in a swing state.

have you done the leg work of letting your congress critters know you don't support biden or harris on israel and that we need to implement an arms embargo? if not gtfo. until then I will continue to advocate people vote with their conscience. because I have done the work. biden/harris are blinking we need to push harder before the end of the month. I'm literally sitting here with my ballot waiting for harris to make an announcement prior to voting.

My conscience won’t allow me to sit aside while the fascist party wins

well clearly it will and so does harris' since shes unwilling to commit to not enabling a genocide. pretty low bar shes failing to step over to get some easy votes. no one has said she isn't allowed to defend israel if they're attacked. shes just needs to commit to enforcing the law on the books about supplying arms to countries commiting genocide.

And you're correct no one can compel me to vote rationally. the funny thing about acting rationally is that the definition of rationality is that it depends on the goal. My goal is to get harris to commit to upholding our laws on not selling to genocidal maniacs like bibi. Harris needs my vote (and others) to do so. just like she needs my vote to protect all those groups you mentioned, which if she was committing to a policy that endangered them I'd do the same thing.

first they came for the palestinians, but I was not a palestinian so I didn't speak out.... seem familiar?

so email your critters let them know you support a embargo on israel and that you want harris to make a commitment in the next week and if she does you have my vote and likely 40K minimum more in a swing state. worry about the zionists another day they'll be fine. all you need to do is give harris permission. go forth and do so, repeatedly daily for the next week.

Unfortunately, elections are a popularity contest, not a morality test. It doesn’t matter what’s right, it matters what enough voters in the right states approve of.

agreed, and shes losing; all I can do is try and help by telling her what will get mine and apparently other votes.

The difference is that your assumptions are based on pure unsupported fantasy, while mine are based on historical evidence.

the past does not predict the future. but it rhymes. and the past shows the democrats run to the right and lose. looks in harris' direction

thats, like, your opinion man. all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.

I've only made a single claim on how others will act and it was a group that literally said 'stop the arm shipments to gaza' and there are 100k of them in an important swing state.

Sure, hold your nose, and when Trump wins you can snuggle say you didn’t directly vote for him, it’s not your fault LGBT people are getting carted off to camps, it’s not your fault women are legally considered breeding stock, it’s not your fault Palestine is a sheet of glass, it’s not your fault we pulled aid from Ukraine and sent it to Israel. Harris should have done more to seduce you into supporting human rights, it’s her fault you helped the greater evil.

correct. you see its a popularity contest, and apparently shes not winning and doesn't know how to. a shame really. if only the DNC ran a real primary when faced with a historically disliked administration. well you lose some, you win some. but it is a shame and its a shame you wouldn't put in the effort for all those groups you're trying to place on my plate. my vote is here for the taking. its a shame she couldn't check a single box on my list. I hope she pulls it off but for some reason it seems like she wont.

Harris should have done more to seduce you into supporting human rights, it’s her fault you helped the greater evil.

its funny you think your giant list of minority groups who actually have rights and trump wont be able to take them away by himself is more important to me than the 40k people already murdered and million + put at risk by the biden admin inability to have a spine. its why he lost support (among a plethora of other issues, like union busting) and just slapping harris' name on the top of the ticket won't change that outcome. sorry but the deaths are the greater evil. I will not choose between the minority groups. you can compromise if you wish I won't.

I dint particularly care if they court me. Harris can have all the policies in the world she cant enact 99% of them without democrats in the legislature ao they're worth less than the paper they're written on without yhose commitments. Its not like they have a job other than writing this legislation. Should have these bills ready to go with their signatures on them. Now that would convince me she can deliver.

Now if harris committed to arms embargo by upholding leahy w/ israel, or keeping ms khan, or promising to support striking workers with aid, id be all over her. Because she can do that.

You see the difference between me and you is i hold politicians accountable for what they can do..not what i want to hear.

It amuses me how rational you think you are while simultaneously missing the point. The gop will collapse, and then the dems will be the right wing party that they want to be. And the fight will begin anew. Harris shift to the right is a fine demonstration of this.

The dude sucks at dancing like most maladjusted white men. i dont see an issue here out side of his rampant racism and fascism. we can do better.

Honestly? I'd be more likely to attend a political rally if they had more dancing and less pomp.

Edit: sandbox this not directed at you. Just clarifying.

Last I checked no one has suggested supporting trump instead. Seek help you've been seeing things that are not real.

To everyone else show up, vote with your heart. I live in a safe state, i still voted down ballot for the majority of my reps. If you're in a similar situation please consider doing the same and contacting your reps and letting them know why. Dont let Kamala and the dnc force you into supporting a genocide its not worth it.

If you're in a swing state do what you need to do to protect your local community in whatever way you can. Yes, including supporting harris if thats what it'll take, despite shitty of a candidate she is^1^. I promise you people like myself are not upset with people supporting kamala. I have no interest in shaming you for voting.

But if you think trying to stop a genocide is unreasonable, well... You're the problem, and i will happily call you out for your disgusting bullshit.

^1^ Kamala has remained uncommited to labor. (No policies for pto,sick leave, healthcare reform, workers rights.

Kamala has remained uncommited to keeping khan the best head of the FTC we've seen in my life. See related mentions about labor they're coupled.

Kamala has done more to harm the muslim community than just supporting a genocide shes actively suppressed them in our own country, if she's willing to throw one minority group under the bus shes willing to throw others.

ah yes, the classic 'it was their land originally' argument. they had to fight a civil war with the local government and won due to support from western powers.

The British government had publicly committed itself to the creation of a Jewish homeland in the 1917 Balfour declaration. Palestinian Arabs opposed this design, asserting their rights over the former Ottoman territories and seeking to prevent Jewish immigration. As a result, Arab–Jewish tensions grew in the succeeding decades of British administration. In late 1947, the United Nations voted for the partition of Mandate Palestine and the creation of a Jewish and an Arab state on its territory; the Jews accepted the plan, while the Arabs rejected it. A civil war ensued, won by the Jews.

After pushing out the Ottomans, Palestine came under martial law. The British, French and Arab Occupied Enemy Territory Administration governed the area shortly before the armistice with the Ottomans until the promulgation of the mandate in 1920.

that not nearly the same thing. as 'peaceful immigration' as you try to imply. I don't particularly care one way or the other, religious fanatics are gonna fanatic. do you have a particular point you were trying to make?

its a common refrain. I don't particularly care.

And what makes you conclude that violent opposition from Muslim fanatics prohibits the immigrants from being peaceful?

Who invited them to Palestinian? did they have a statue saying 'bring us your tired, your weak, your sick?' why call them violent muslin fanatics and not just Muslim fanatics?

We both know why jerusalum was chosen. because they considered it their holy land. we also both know that immigration is rarely accepted by local populations. just look at our own country (assuming you live in the US).

If you think I care about the palestinians any more than the jews in israel you're incorrect. I care that American weapons and funds are committing a genocide, and act clearly prohibited by our laws. I care very deeply that both sides stop killing each other. Did you know that the biden admin, and the saudis were close to having an agreement to create a palestinian state and normalize relations with israel and the suadis on oct 6 just prior to the attacks? I wonder why hamas attacked, I wonder why bibi is going on a rampage. both parties that benefit from tense relations.

Can you imagine what might have happened in bibi just took the hit and tried to work it out peacefully? can you imagine if biden put his foot down just once early on and forced them to?

I don't give a shit who threw the first punch generations ago. what matters is the actions that are being taken today. I fear now we're another 4 generations away from peace.

When? Im not an Oracle. May take decades. May get worse before it gets better in certain areas. The USSR took a generation to collapse.

Im hoping harris move to the right enough and manages it. So we can split the dem party finally.

Incorrect, you can see Harris scrambling for votes from other groups the dnc has also disenfranchised. This entire conversation id proof that its not a wash. Its a net loss for the dems. There are only so many times a group can say but we're better than those guys whole doing the exact same thing as those guys before people laugh and tune them out.

DNC wants votes?

• were is mandatory pto, sick days?
• where is universal healthcare?
• where is police/judicial reforms?
• where is labor support?
• where the fuck is my non genocidal option?

My vote was up for grabs by the dnc and they decided to stay the course. Biden lost my vote when he committed to breaking a strike and then a genocide. Thats on them. Dont like it bitch at them for running a shitty platform.

At this point the only way ill believe dems during an election is they have the bills ready to go and presigned by Congress

Lol. Well they were alive until Israel started genociding so likely all of them? They gave no value dead.

Frankly it doesn't matter Hamas and Israel government are shit groups that have been killing each other for decades. We never should have created Israel in the first place. It was doomed to bloodshed from the moment it was thought of.

The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The next best time is now. Take your Zionist bs elsewhere.

Any other vote is a vote for trump

This is just factually incorrect. And easily demonstrated using math you should have learned in the 5th grade.

Trump: 5 votes

Harris: 5 votes

Any other vote: 5 votes

If i keep adding votes to 'any other vote' the ratio between trump / Harris will not change.

T: 5 H: 5 AOV: 10000

Ratio is still one see? In no way is Harris' chances of winning impacted by a third party vote.

What you mean to say is 'Harris having shitty policies that are abhorrent to the voting population causes her to be at risk of losing to a literal fascist.'

By trying to put the blame on other voters because you are willing to overlook genocide says more about you than it does them.

There is only one person who can fix Harris' platform. Put the blame where it rightfully belongs, on harris.

Lolol invented israel to eecape blood shed. Thats rich. Because taking one group of religious fanatics and stealing the land of another group of religious fanatics never caused blood shed. Rofl man i havent laughed this hard all week. Thanks.

Are you doing the legwork of telling her directly?

yes, every person in my congressional animal pen knows where i stand and that they should pressure her. harris has no personal interest in my vote since she will comfortably win in my state. however my critters know i'm watching them and my friend circle has done the same.

let me be clear here: I have a laundry list of issues with harris' platform. there is literally nothing on there that I can about directly:

• no health care reform (reducing means testing for medicare/single payer/reducing costs etc)
• no labor reform (mandatory PTO/sick leave/minimum wage increases/non-compete removal, etc)
• no commitment to keeping khan as head of FTC.
• and is willing to genocide a minority group.

my ask from harris is to commit to doing the one thing she can 100% do herself as a president and thats commit to israel's safety while preventing from them genociding. if that requires giving israel a small bloody nose by not protecting them in the UN and stopping arms shipments. fine and many jews in the US agree on this.

Im telling people vote with their conscience on harris, why? because it'll get them to the poll booth, jill/claudia might get their vote instead of harris but know what else? the down ballot democrats are more likely to get their vote. thats more important than trump/harris. if trump wins but democrats get the majority in both houses and we keep them we'll be fine.

You must be looking at a different past than the rest of us.

na just have a different slant. most of the time the democrats run on shitty positions like anti-gun and border nonsense. but ignore things like labor rights, healthcare, and education, and the economy. thats why they lose.

Your entire premise is that your choice will cause a candidate to alter their behavior

yes, because thats how voting works, and why my state is literally a single party state.

I’d wager she checks quite a lot of them, when considering the alternative. Status quo is not ideal, but it is better than marked backsliding, which is what you’re gambling.

no, thats what all of you're are gambling, including harris, you'll vote for her because shes not trump. she has your vote. know what votes she doesn't have? the 100k in michigan whose friends and family are being genocided by her policies.

Which is different than the entire history of the state of Israel how? Your alternatives are an unbroken trend of spineless opposition, and enthusiastic support. I do not consider enthusiastic support to be an acceptable risk in my electoral stratagems.

what the fuck are you going on about? lol no one is saying abandon the jews, just stop giving them weapons until they stop being literally genocidal morons over there. you know, follow our fucking laws on arm sales.

The deaths will not decrease under the alternative evil, in fact they will most certainly increase under the other evil.

you have no idea what evil is. the fact you are trying to brow beat people over a person willing to throw a minority group under the genocidal bus is mind boggling considering all the evil you're talking about is literally a bunch of minority groups whom have been thrown under various busses. now I have to wonder which other ones will she through under the bus of joy and alleged law and order.

As I said, call your congress critters, demand they stop arms to israel and that they pressure harris and then vote with your heart on election day. if thats jill/claudia/harris it doesn't matter. I'm more interested in getting people to the booths for all the local and down ballot issues.

now if you don't support protecting the palestenians and think israel should be slaughtering them then thats on you and you're far more evil than any person voting 3rd party. I'm just happy they voted regardless of their feelings on harris.

Lets see... harris won't get my vote beccause shes throwing a minority group under the genocidal bus (among a laundry list of other labor issues) and trump also likes to through minority groups under genocidal bus (along with a train load of other issues). yes, I definitely think trump would do a better job.... I think you need to work on your reasoning abilities.

I want people to show up and vote regardless of who they support for president. if genocide is there line in the sand like it is mine then all the more reason to get them to go and not check harris but likely check all the down ballot candidate. The fact harris is failing as a candidate isnt my or their fault. its hers and her useless platform. her job is to get votes if she can't convince people thats on her. I've let her and my critters know whats okay and whats absolutely not okay. now she gets to make her decision on her move.

if she loses thats her fault. not yours, not mine, not anyone who showed up and checked their boxes. Now I need to go and remind my critters since its monday, as ive been doing every work day this month, that genocide is not okay and I know where each of them stands on it and what I expect them to do.

Wow i never knew! Thanks! 🤯

So you think Trump would be better than Harris?

no, we (speaking for myself and @selah here) don't support genocidal candidates. stop making up stories in your head and read what people are telling you.

Because that’s the only thing you get to vote on: Trump or Harris.

incorrect there were 5 candidates on my ballot. this is a false choice that exists purely in your head. There are many paths to neutralizing trump and that don't normalize genocide.

A vote for neither is a vote for whoever has more votes

incorrect, pure fiction. i suggest you spruce up on your basic addition and ratio math skills. What you mean to say is no vote or a vote for a 3rd party doesn't help harris, you're preferred candidate. yes. thereby putting her candidacy at risk. maybe she should adopt some policies to fix this.

The reason harris is swinging to the right is because the right wing doesn't care about worker rights and many are also very disgusted with trump. They require no concessions by capital to garner votes; just a general disgust with trump. If trump wasnt running this wouldn't be possible.

Hilariously I have no problem with this as a left wing voter. Why? because if the democrats can reliably peel off the few remaining moderate republicans we can finally split this big tent party and get a party that is dedicated to working class rights.