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I am against a law allowing LGBTQ couples to adopt children in my country (Poland). I am not in any way against it as a general idea, but Polish society is full of full-on bigots and these kids would be subject to so much bullying, it's really against their best interest.

The argument a lot of people raise "if we start doing it then people will get used to it" doesn't work for me, because why should these children be victims of war that is not even theirs to fight? The whole thing makes me sick.

I've been downvoted for this opinion by both sides on Reddit.

I believe legalizing marriage, normalizing LGBTQ couples' status first to prove the general society that they're not actually some sick perverted sickos before we allow children adoption, should be the first step. Also waiting for the old people to die out, to put it bluntly.

Keep in mind Poland is still a hugely conservative society, in full grasp of the Catholic church. It's changing, you can clearly see the trend, but on the other hand our current government is still actively painting LGBTQ+ as some sort of harmful ideology or what not. We have a long way to come.

When do you look at/watch them?

Not OP, but same situation. I usually don't, but my mother who lives far from us does every day. We take a lot of photos and videos, she gets to watch them and she's up to speed on our kids' lives, can talk to them about stuff they did today, etc. We feel like it lets her be a part of their lives in a way.

Then you have that Google Photos feature where you get automatically created mini albums like "they grow up so fast" or "now vs then", it will compile a couple of photos from 7, 6, 5, ... Years ago and we watch those religiously, often coming back to the particular event from which some photo is. We can spend an entire evening going through older photos like that.

That approach could work in the past, but it won't now. Now we have the internet when even people shamed by their family or neighbors will find support and like-minded individuals. We are only going to be more divided in the future.

So does Jerboa tbh.

XCOM, or, more recently released, Baldur's Gate 3 fits too.

Has no one here ever worked on a new project or even a new feature in a decently sized codebase? Working exclusively in maintenance / minor change mode has to be exhausting.

Years ago, while I was a poor students I compiled Gentoo on an overclocked Celeron CPU at whopping 533 MHz. Took literally 3 days to get to a functioning KDE desktop.

Worth every second, especially because it was winter and the dorm room was cold. My friends appreciated it too, they nicknamed my desktop "the reactor" for all the warmth it provided compiling all the damn time.

There are no orphans up for adoption in Poland, you have to wait your turn in line to adopt because there are so many couples that can't have children. My close friends waited over 3 years. The only kids in the system are the ones who are in the middle of a legal fight and can't be adopted.

Yeah very common in Spark world, but haven't seen it used much elsewhere.

Favorite? Kotlin generally speaking, but I use Python the most and like it quite much as well. Can't beat Python's time for zero to something useful running and you will find bindings and frameworks for anything.

C++ for anything performance sensitive, or running anything on my Synology NAS.

Knives don't have feelings. Would you willingly put your own child through bullying for a better cause but of very little direct benefit to themselves (most likely, theres a chance they'll be LGBTQ too of course)? I wouldn't, I don't think it's worth it to make a child a martyr.

Sure kids get bullied, that's the default. But why add such a strong factor willingly? That's what I don't get. I can only imagine the fucking hate some of the parents would be spitting out and obviously their kids would take it to school. So that kid would not only get bullied for any of the reasons you mentioned, they'd have their parents sexual orientation added on top.

Also, that last argument doesn't hold up in Poland. There are more couples wanting to adopt than children up for adoption. My close friends, unable to conceive, waited for over three years. The only children in the system are those in a middle of s legal battle that cannot be adopted until that battle is resolved. So it's not "orphan" vs "adopted by a LGBTQ couple", it's adopted by a cishet couple vs LGBTQ couple, and the latter definitely would seem like getting the short straw given current social context.

How is it "instead"? Why do you want to use children as weapons in changing those mentalities? I personally value the well being of these children higher than the right to adopt for these couples.

(copying from another reply I made)

I believe legalizing marriage, normalizing LGBTQ couples' status first to prove the general society that they're not actually some sick perverted sickos before we allow children adoption, should be the first step. Also waiting for the old people to die out, to put it bluntly.

Keep in mind Poland is still a hugely conservative society, in full grasp of the Catholic church. It's changing, you can clearly see the trend, but on the other hand our current government is still actively painting LGBTQ+ as some sort of harmful ideology or what not. We have a long way to come.