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Morons are everywhere, be prepared. Occasionally I'm one of them.

Think I'm still on keepassxc but looking to change. Bitwarden is looking good.

Do you selfhost?

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I'm not new to linux but the GPL seems quite complicated and I couldn't even tell you which GPL Redhat subscribe to without going to check.

RHEL may not be going 'closed source' but they are closing down the channels to access the code and will prosecute any customers who distribute the code.

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Decent breakdown from The Register:

https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/23/red_hat_centos_move/

Seems they have been quite focused on the embrace, extend, extinguish plan for a decade or so.

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The RHEL approach seems to involve only supplying source code to customers already consuming binaries who will already be under other restrictions as they have agreeded to other T&C's.

RHEL has been moving towards this for a decade, it seems unlikely they have forgotten about the GPL.

https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/23/red_hat_centos_move/

The Register seems to think they are acting perfectly in line with the GPL.

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Working between servers.

Just simple stuff like searching, adding, customizing feeds. Clicking an alert to take me to the content will take me to a server I'm not logged into and I need to go back and find the same post via my own server to comment. Not the end of the world for me but likely a big issue for many potential users if the are use to mainstream social media that 'just works'.

On the plus side it's not as if Red Hat are in charge of the all of the core system plumbing for all the major distros.....oh, shit wait a minute.

Embrace, extend, extinguish.

Rocky & Alma were easy targets. Next up thumbscrews on systemd!

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Rocky's reaction seems the same as Alma, current long-term solution is they don't know. A more businessly optimism in the post doesn't really make up for a clear technical plan going forward.

Linux gives you freedom.

Freedom lets you break stuff.

If, like Windows or MacOSyou just use it as intended by official support, it should be fine. If you start just adding everything and anything from anyone you're gonna break stuff.

Other stuff is made to be idiot proof, Linux is not.

No.

But Arch supports around 14,000 packages and any branch of Nix has around 100,000 stable and 100,000 unstable packages.

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Yes, consider popping in an ssd in place of the hdd if you have a few more pennies to spare.

You could just use Fedora and not submit any bug reports as that would help them. Just quietly leech.

It's nice if you can find something that both does what you need and agrees with your philosophy...but usually some compromise is required.

https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/23/red_hat_centos_move/

I suspect if they are not acting in accordance with the law, Oracle's lawyers will let them know shortly.

Seems unlikely IBM have announced this to the world without checking the GPL first.

Slightly faster performance doesn't seem like a great reason to swallow Red Hat code at the moment.

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I'm hoping Discord is passing phase I can largely ignore. I will deal with it if I need to but it seems like world of proprietary crapware.

May be useful in understanding the origins of Abrahamic religion too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Arad#Israelite_temple

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Is that not what the article covers?

RHEL customers can request the source code, they cannot distribute it. If you are a RHEL customer with a license agreement, just ask. I don't think they will be sending corporate customer requests via microfiche in the post in 30 working days. Where it was once easy for anyone to get RHEL's source code, going forward it will be a service only for customers who agree to be bound by an IBM legal agreement upon receipt of code or access to the tree.

CentOS was very useful, so they bought it, let it spread and then killed it abruptly. They have since watched Oracle, Alma & Rocky offer solutions to CentOS withdrawal, make decade long promises to their customers and get comfortable before breaking the whole eco-system of decade long 'binary compatibility with RHEL' systems.

I'd prefer communities and instances focus on providing clear mission statements, support commitments, community guidelines and working on what is possible with what we have. I'd hope that much of the work being done on the Lemmy code over the coming year or so is cve's, bugfixes, mod tools, scalability & further integration with other areas of the fediverse.

A financial health bar sounds like a lot of work to add and a lot of work for people running an instance to commit to keeping up to date for little gain, or possibly negative gain. Most businesses struggle to provide accounts every year or two and this would likely involve international market and crypto integration alongside converting donated or removeded hardware, hosting and maybe most importantly labour given freely. Real time financial reports for thousands of open source social instances seems wild. To make a personal instance appear green I'd need to show the running cost of ~3.72% of my server and then donate to my own instance and publish it, even then it might be red for half the month if I don't get my direct debit date in sync.

A lot of money changing hands on Reddit was mods being bribed to promote content, we'd need a bar for that here too so we can see how corrupt the mods of each instance are. Maybe a light/dark bar showing declared and undeclared funding.

Prosperity is often linked to abrupt change.

In my experience of open source over the past decade or so often the most reliable projects over the longterm are those with a focus on code & community, not finance. If the finances go too far into the red they will ask the community for support. Pat's Slackware or Theo's OpenBSD seems like good examples, they are beyond dependable and the finance model seems to involve ignoring it until the lights are about to go off and then asking the community for help. Gentoo & Debian for the community approach.

A small instance with a dedicated admin and a solid community behind the admin that's currently losing money may be more likely to be still growing and thriving in a few years than a huge instance at the moment with an admin focused on the short term financial possibilities of another mass Reddit migration next week.

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It think it's more for RH/IBM to test new stuff on the community as opposed to something like Debian or Gentoo that actually has a fairly clear community commitment.

I don't recall a lot community polling and discussion when they moved to systemd, btrfs or wayland.

That seems to be what has just happened. Beehaw, one of the larger instances, has just defederated lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. I can see both side from fmhy.ml or kbin at the moment.

I'm wondering if it would be easier to observe all this from a personal server that federates with everyone instead of my account and feed being determined by the relations of tankies to queer safe spaces in real time

I'm not really surprised. Reddit is massive now and a gold mine of content, they can likely afford losing a few million users and a few thousand subs as they move towards retirement planning. It seems like a reasonable business decision to me. They will lose a chuck of current user base trust and support, but may gain trust from users of Insta, Twitter, Facebook, Tik-Tok etc users if they spend millions on advertising and fixing the fucking video player instead of spending the money supporting 3rd party API access.

The Reddit stuff all makes sense to me and I don't blame anyone, the only real problem is Reddit got too good and therefore had to snap. Would be nice to still be around to see the fediverse being taken over by the sith one day.

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Tolerance of own farts > tolerance of the farts of others

The source can be open, just not easy to access...send an email and in 30 days they provide it, they are not obligated to have everything available instantly as they do now or provide an infrastructure to make life easy for community projects.

They could also mix in proprietary code to make things more awkward afaik.

I'd bear in mind in-house made applications RH provide include systemd, wayland, pipewire & gnome....as long as your distro and use case don't depend on any of these, there's no need to worry.

You've lost me on the Buckley thing. Cohen first, then Cale...then maybe if we have time Buckley.

I like flac as it's versatile and I can transcode it without fear but it would surely take an actual mutant with a few million in stereo equipment to tell the difference between flac and a decent lossy rip.

thx, didn't know about wikiless

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thx

Thanks

Thanks

37yr old Richard Stallman

A little, but keeping options open. My Gentoo and Void machines seem like they will survive a Redhat power grab but I'd have to figure out 4k playback elsewhere on my rpi if they decide to break things as that's my current weakpoint.

I'm keeping an eye on BSD but feel there's still a lot of potential in linux; musl, toybox & s6 are doing good work. If RedHat manage to break Gentoo everything is fucked and I need to flee to BSD but I don't think they are capable of that yet.

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Reddit was maintained by unpaid mods. It it now being shat on by unpaid mods.

I appreciate the need for funding I just don't see the 'funds health bar' being useful fediverse server feature.

Something will silly bass to give it a workout. Maybe techno or dub. DJ Muggs, Green Velvet, Lee Perry, Aphex Twin kind thing.

I'd save Albert Ayler & Diamanda Galas until it's broken in a bit.

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In light of recent IBM/RH activity those keeping the old ways, and user choice, alive are more important than ever.

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:NeddySeagoon/YeOldeGentoo_2021_Edition

Alsa may be a bit awkward but the other stuff is just more chaos on top of it, it's not an alternative.

I try wayland once a year or so, maybe one year I will manage more than a few hours or days.

lvm/luks/ext4 is still better than btrfs which still hasn't gotten round to addressing encryption, big hopes for bcachefs.

Awesome & thank you, makes sense.

I'm freeloading from FMHY, kbin.social and mastondon.uk as I try to figure out how this works and been playing around with self hosting instances, this is interesting.

A small fee for a safe and reliable place seems reasonable, cheers for the post :)

Thanks, appreciate the insight. I did not consider that and am still trying to get grasp of things.

I mentioned Pat & Theo as it seems on the few occasions they do reach out to keep the servers running beyond current donations, people do reach out to help with running costs. People don't jump ship and the community persists for decades.

If a linux distro is struggling to keep up, freeloading users will often jump ship too. Linux isn't short on distros to choose from or small community distros that died.

I'm not sure what you provide....what is the advantage to using your service over just deploying a lemmy or mastodon instance on any cloud service?

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Just the same way the funding bar works. As long as no one is lying, confused, lazy, mistaken or busy it's bulletproof.

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