Looks more like a few hours of cramping body and soul followed by 3 days of emotional hangover

So close to not denormalizing gay men, yet...

Oh god please no, please don't escalate this war by adding the killer kind of weapons to it

1. Tiniest fraction of single use plastic
2. Could be recycled or reused/resterilized
3. What flavour of skepticism are you trying to perform rn?

The magic about collective action is that the everyday-normal-coorperation of humans comes up with solutions for everyone. The pointer to individual decision-making in lack of collective action thus doesn't work as a measure of how serious people are.

Also seen in episodes like

"Oh, you are wearing shoes made under unfair conditions?!"

And

"Oh there is fossil fuel in your energy consumption?"

Or

"Oh if you like democracy so much, why do you exist in a not-so-democratic-country?"

I don't know which one is actually worse.

A nostalgia themed glamourizing of brutality right next to "unwanted people". No explanation of how those two things connect, so all that stays is the association.

Kind of on a neuro-marketing like level of discours (just strenghtening your associations by creating emotions or atmosphere) he is mobilizing violence against immigrants. (And normalizing violence as a means of governing in general)

Grind'em down with tiny progress

And "helping" is still a major understatement

I was gonna add "these days" but didn't

I get the epic of marking climate change as a general human issue by doing stonehenge. Doing, let's say, the wall street bulls statue or smth in London marking climate change as a capital issue would have been smarter thou

... they fine just a few people. But most apples are bad cops.

And they live in a filmstudio white house in one continious sitcom and voting is replaced by how many stars you give each episode. A commission of reaction-video-youtubers intetpret the episode to forge the ratings into political policy making

Regarding how rushed international policy-making for the environment and against profitability is not at all a problem has never been and won't be anytime soone, that "scepticism" seems to be the product of "looking for superiority" here, imho

Oops wrong pic. But I think it also shows how far from this study the claim "30% support putin" is

Paywall at the real article... Why would they?

Support seems to plainly be the wrong word. "Not as an enemy, as a competitor" is definetly not "support". In my opinion calling it that is more than misleading

I understand and totally support that in general. I'm gonna try to explain my point of view.

In this case we don't exactly look at policy-making. Between stating that a majority supports governmental action to ban one use plastics and actual policy is a process.

This process will "forge" the outcome. In it, several conflicting interests will meet/clash and according to the power relations between them, they will be able to enforce their respective will.

Since the power relations are, let's say, fucked up, we are constantly seeing how profit of few overrule need of many and overall rational solutions.

Thats why the criterion "clearness" seems out of place for me at this point. Certanly, before it comes to the actual policy-making, things like the washabillity of surgical equipment will be processed. You will certanly not end up with a dirty scalpel in your body.

That's why the scepticism of your initial comment seemed odd to me.

Don't know if this should be seen as a given standard, or if we ("average lemmy users") should disclaim it more often, but I don't mean to be offensive (even though this format of short message discourse provoces a certain sass). I mean to have meaningful conversation about each others POV's. That's somewhat the point of lemmy, imo.

Ok. Thanks!

"I imply therefore I comply"

Wait.. so is it an implication or a complication?

Okay newsflash +++ It also happend when I click the dots on my own comments, in situations like I forgot to put blank limes betweens my text lines so it doesn't fuck it all up

It is not. If it was consensual it might be. If it's real it's not.

Surpressing your empathy in face of dire news is your right. We all have to in order to psychologically survive these times.

I think you shouldn't act out that surpression as a funny joke in public. This adds to the brutalization of the public, wich we can't really afford in these times, if we want them to become more human, more bearable

Random wrong place I know, but dont wanna bother more people then necessary: Why cant i see upvotes/downvotes?

Someone discovered the dialectic of individual and society

To answer that: political view has more options than condemn and support.

Of course, imo, they should condemn putin, his supporters, trum, biden, scholz, macron and the whole idea of those beeing the options of development of our societies.

But its not helpfull for us to tune in on 2 dimensional, under-complex concepts of social development/politics

Ok imma try to get my point across one more time: There are two different layers of reality about the war.

Both layers contain meaningful information.

A bit of info in layer 1: The war is bad.

A bit of info in layer 2: Not all people see that.

We agree on both. Now my point is: We should understand the nuances on layer 2.

Your answer is: "Layer 1 has no nuances"

The war is not the same thing as the opinions about the war.

To influence the discourse, i.e. opinions, it's better to understand the opinions specifically ("in nuances").

To close the discrapancy between misguided public opinion and actual reality, we need to understand the opinions, not confuse its object with its (ideologically structured) representation.

No, see response in other comment

Okay on second thought I wanna take back that warriors comment, that was too bitchy. Guess I'm also not uneffected by how toxic the whole discourse on Israel (also in or between lefty communities) is.

Like, everyone seems to feel they'd have to be either "pro israel" or "pro palestine", wich imo 1. Is freaking dangerous for germans specifically 2. Doesn't recognize the complexity (in the sense of one can't just identify the totality of Israel with its right wing government as ome can't just identify palestine with hamas.) 3. It tends to overlook the perspective of both israelian and palestinian lefties

I don't know of a starter guide. I guess because it depends a lot on where you live and what kind of activism/political work goes with your opinion and, well, your life.

I guess the common approaches to increase one's political agency are

• tumble into/ join a social movement This can be almost anything. Eco stuff, feminism, labour, city planning, community solidarity networks, antifa, antira, whatever floats your boat kind of.
• having a job and getting in touch with your union
• being a nerd, have a lot more theory going on then praxis so you search for groups matching your specific opinion

Basically no matter wich one it is, from there on you will meet people, meet ideas, discuss, get (even) more specific ideas of who is doing what and why and if you agree. Orientation comes with praxis, as in all fields I guess.

Maybe 2 starter guide like points:

1. Don't go apocalypse mode. Yes, shit is hitting the fan more aggressively every minute and it's beyond reason, empathy, humanity. Still, changing social order is a long term project. Make it sustainable, don't burn out.
2. Get started. All that dooomscrolling, theorizing, accumulating frustration, anger, fear without any praxis just makes you either depressive or indifferent. All thinking no doing doesn't work. Having people around you that aknowlede the problems you see and fight on your side makes all the difference.

• you may choose your form of epic. "Fighting" might sound weird to you. "I'm a revolutionary" sounds weird to me. Transforming society as good as you can without becoming unhappy af is what counts. The Zapatistas say "preguntando caminamos" - "asking we walk" or "proceeding while questioning". I think thats a good epic and the best advice a have for you.

See you in the streets ;)

Jerboa 0.0.67 Home & community screen As soon as I press sort by icon, I get a pop up "jerboa stopped working" Android 8.0.0 on a galaxy S

I mean so I can't edit

Just get organized and fight without leaving anyone :)

Ok wow. First, thanks to everyone who have their estimates. Appreciated. And for everyone else and the warriors of downvoting: No I was not trolling abd not it's not THAT unilkely for it to be lefties (yes okay anarchists and tankies I mostly said as exmples so you know what I'm trying to ask)

If you are interested: there is a german lefty flavor called Antideutsche (anti-german). They are Zionists, antifas, anticapitalist, have a thing for violence (stylizing "bomber harris" for example), say weird thing like "protecting ur environment is like protecting your 'home country' like nazis would" and sometimes think of whoever basically as if they were nazis.

I'm not making this up, lefties go weird ways sometimes.

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Have you read that I said "of course they should condemn putin ..."?

What I'm doing is not relativizing the invasion, but the opinions about it.

It's a meta level. I'm not talking about nuances of the war, but nuances of political views. The article and the discussion is on that level.

I agree with your call for clear (and plain coherent/realistic) condemnation of the war. Nevertheless this should not be confused with analyzing how many and how and why people don't see it that way.

Otherwise we give up a better understanding of what people think, which we need in order to find strategies to influence the discours on realities terms. (Reality meaning the reality of conciousness(es) about the war, not the war. That part we already agree on)

Yeah lets get some social science running in this b**** Ü Perspective this techie fest (<3) could use some of

Does anyone know what political stance(s) the attacking crowd is made of?

Like, also lefties? Tankies, anarchists? Or like MAGAs?

I'd love some sauce on that Ü