lwaxana_katana

@lwaxana_katana@beehaw.org
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I agree, at first my knee-jerk reaction was against defederation, but I think actually this is one of the cool things about Lemmy and the way it works; you can have relatively isolated pockets and very open spaces, and users can move between them freely. It's not like leaving Reddit and coming to Lemmy, for example. You can use Beehaw and other instances, and both can serve a specific purpose. I really appreciate this write up because without it I would not have felt good about this decision, but after having read it I get it and I appreciate it.

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Wow I didn't know he ran r/jailbait. Gross.

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It means you can't view their content through your Beehaw account, but you can create another account on another instance to see content that is defederated from Beehaw.

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I agree with the general consensus in this thread that, though regrettable, I appreciate what you are trying to do with this. It is fairly straightforward to create an account on another instance to see other content if we want to, and I appreciate Beehaw being its own, special thing.

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I mean, you can create two accounts. I have my Beehaw account as well as my startrek.website account, for example. I use them both for different things, and they both have different vibes. I quite like it tbh.

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Sure, but maybe every instance doesn't have to be tightly federated. There will be some instances where broad federation is their guiding principle, and some instances like Beehaw where their guiding principle is creating and maintaining a particular atmosphere.

Ahhh, ty. It did seem even worse than expected for him to have been actively running that sub.

Hopefully it will help people realise that a profit motive being attached to everything is actually counterproductive societally.

Based on this post, it seems like the mods were responding specifically to having a lot of issues with regard to users from that specific instance. I feel like there are likely plenty of smaller &/or more niche instances with open registration who don't attract users looking specifically to troll Beehaw.

In Android you can use an app to clone apps so you can sign in to different accounts, maybe something like that exists for iOS also? I appreciate the frustration wrt not being able to see a fair amount of content, however I do think it's a temporary issue -- as you say Mlem is already working on that.

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Hrm actually, it seems like now you can do it without a third party app -- https://www.makeuseof.com/run-two-copies-of-app-android/

I am new to Lemmy and also to Beehaw. Does defederation mean that we can't load comments/threads/communities from defederated servers via Beehaw (and vice versa for users of instances Beehaw has defederated from)?

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I disagree with this. Definitely there are many examples of organised religion being perfect case studies of the adage that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. But there are also many ways that religious communities support each other and their wider communities, outside just providing a doctrinal "granule of truth".

Sikhism I think are most famous for this, and I feel like at least where I live whenever something bad happens in the background on the news I see Sikh communities mobilising to render assistance.

Similarly, the denomination I was brought up in (church of christ) have always been oriented, both in theory and practice, around doing community work first and debating doctrine a fairly distant second (also, each church of christ congregation is an independent entity, which I think has probably contributed to it being able to maintain its strong community-first focus over time).

I agree that this is a cool idea, but I also wanted to note that these kinds of labour trade systems remain inaccessible to many people with disability, as well as to single parents, carers, and other people who are time poor.

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Fwiw as a PwD it doesn't feel or look very disability friendly. I'm not dismissing the whole initiative, though, I just wanted that to be part of the conversation.

I just tried to post this but it didn't show up apologies if this is double posted.

Oh also, my own preferred systems of community organising is standard mutual aid along the lines of "to everyone according to their needs, from everyone according to their abilities". I get that it feels like nitpicking but it does kind of hurt as a PwD to see these kinds of initiatives (and, e.g., trade unionism specifically) be discussed, knowing that we don't really fit into the framework and that just never really coming up.

I think people engaging with their local communities is great though and I'm not trying to diminish that.

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Re: the specific argument about a coverup being impossible, there have been plenty of people over the years with claims like this. The idea that this guy is talking about what "a friend of a friend" said is also a very ungenerous and inaccurate claim, given Grush's established credentials.

Otherwise, I agree it's hard to believe, but I don't think this guy has actually "debunked" it as he claims in his hashtag. The options are that he's lying or crazy, and he doesn't seem crazy, and if he's lying he's going to jail. The most plausible explanation for it not being true is that it's part of some complex psy-op, but that also is a fairly outlandish theory (albeit not as difficult to accept on its face).

To be fair I don't think it's that he's not ending of a "legitimate businessman", I think that's the way that all large corporations are and if anything he's learned too well how to think like CEO.

But yeah otherwise I agree with you.

I don't think PwD generally fit into skills trade or labour-oriented community organising structures. I don't think that means that those things shouldn't happen, I just think it is important for part of the conversation to be about the limitations of those types of organising structures and not just their merits (and they do have many merits!).

It's clear you haven't looked at all. It is not the job of pwd to educate people without disability, and I have tried to be polite about this.

Thank you. :)

For me, my disability is MS and my most disabling symptom is fatigue and double vision that develops from fatigue (also heat and cold sensitivity...). I spend all my energy raising my daughter, and still don't have enough energy always to do that the way that I would like to. Honestly I am not sure where you're going with this question, but it feels like asking pwd to satisfy you that we have different capacities and it doesn't feel great.

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How can people learn or understand if they can’t ask for help to learn?

There are actually lots of resources about this on the internet that you can look at rather than asking pwd directly to educate you, because it is exhausting and I get that lots of people have these questions, but also -- again -- there are many resources about it on the internet. It is both draining and isolating feeling as if you need to be constantly educating people around you and convincing them that you're not just trying to weasel out of working or whatever.

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Oh wow, this is so cool! Thank you for posting.