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did the 2me42me4meirl (i may have misspelled that) community migrate to lemmy? if so, that sounds like a story that might fit there.

depending on the stiry, it could also fit in somewhere like the' raised by narcissists' community/support-group.

withe way, good practice would still probably be to add a content warming first, if you do decide to share that story somewhere.

Break the cycle,if you'd like to, and go /c/childfree @lemmy.world (community reoated links also at childfree.cc.).✨

I mean.. yiu can sometimes potentiallydonate some of your skin, in tthe organ donation sense of donation, to be used for treating burn victims and that sort fo injury,

. and yiu could imagine some pharmaceutical Corp may want to buy some too.

green/natural burials are cool.

Heres some resources, links anyway, that might be helpful with planning, if you wnat to and havent allready, for a green burial,( ahead of time, and ensuring that thise wishes are carried out later) , : πŸ’€πŸŒ³ 🌳🌲🌳🌲🌲🌱 https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/green-burial/ https://www.greenburialcouncil.org/interactive-maps.html

and, for another jurisdiction, :http://www.naturaldeath.org.uk/index.php?page=find-a-natural-burial-site

πŸ’€πŸŒ³ 🌳🌲🌳🌲🌲🌱 also worth mentioning,: if the intention is to go back to to the Erth as soon as possible, then the! not yet as widy avalable, but becoming more avalable repidly) 'natural organic reduction' could be a way to do that, similarly to that green burial, but often more quickly. they can make the whole decomposition happen o a highly controlled environment, conditions monitored and adjusted of needed for ideal decomposition conditions...

if that sound interesting see https://recompose.life/, for the company that started the practice, and offers the service.

And green funerals, a more widely avalable, and also very cool, option.

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*... I think that’s the coolest (imo) way to go and would like to somehow become a tree… "

trees. are. cool.( literally a and metaphorically.). Having your posymoryem body, turned into a tree, is a relly cool option, in my opinion. Good thing is that a it's pretty widely avalable and doable too, in many places. πŸ’€πŸŒ± 🌳 🌳🌲🌳🌲🌲🌱

Heres some resources that might be helpful with planning for that tree, aka green or natural, burial, ahead of time (and ensuring that thise wishes are carried out later) , if you haven't allready: https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/green-burial/ and https://www.greenburialcouncil.org/interactive-maps.html

and to metiΓ³n green burials in another jurisdiction, , http://www.naturaldeath.org.uk/index.php?page=find-a-natural-burial-site

Hopefully some of that may be helpful, or intresting. green. burials. subject.

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perhaps, somewhat related, a place to point out the example of tge republic of San Marino. They have, and have had, since an horn't times: a system of co leadership at the highest national level of government.:+. Two people, elected, jointly holding the position, no singular figure, (and even those two, are changed, at most, every six months on a regular basis, and I belive they can't serve more than one term consecutively, if at all).

Theyve had, San Marino, a long and sucequite sucessfully history. Perhaps the only country then known to survive the the conquest of many surrounding regions on the peninsula. No civil wars, and no transitions of power of changes of government in wchich anybody seems to have been so much as killed or seriously injured. And the system hof co government, and rotation aahs lasted a long time, the longest lasting continuous republic to exist today, I think it's supposed to be. San Marino.

In my defence, I'm new to this keyboard and have big fingers. Also, although I know aof it's existence, I haven't attended any sde I schools myself.

My formal language education Is all quite conventional, with conventional leadership structures and decision making processes, and all. So please don't let that detract from the subjects mentioned.(i really should remember to check spelling, before posting, though πŸ˜…)

Anyway, I'm glad that sde style alternatives, and how they relate to the question, may be of intrest.

in general, agreed on the point about coffins, and using land just for butial into perpetuity is not a great tradition.

If and where it's just about the use of a box, and/or about the using of land space solely for burial, then one other option they can adress bith of these is 'green conservation butkal'.

The land is used for nature and ecosystem restoration and conservation at the same time, and there is no box/coffin required at all. They can also sometimes be less expensive than conventional burial (with the box and the embalming and so on) or even conventional cremation. Some more about the subject at:

https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/green-burial/

if they do end up keeping it, there are artists metalworker, that will agree to turn things like that into custom art and things, if requested. edit:link to one: https://www.titanium-implant-jewelry.com/titanium-implant-jewelry-designs.html

There one in the netherland , I think it is, that offers the service.(they also accept and work with meral that was removed when yiu were still alive, through surgery for example). There seem to be some beautiful examples.

... So, that might be of intrest of intrsst, when writing a will, and to whomever you end up passing that metal to, as a n option, and anlther resin to hold onto those metallic artefacts and keepsakes.

Well, you coild probably arrange for the soil/compost, resulting from that teconposting, to be used to grow some grain (or other native plants that might appeal to the local wildlife) , and then those could be fed to some birds 🐦 🐦 🐦, perhaps on a mountaintop πŸŒ„, even. (i remember a story told at, I think this wasduring kne session at the 'body composting conference', about some peo friend and family who were left soil depositing some of it some quite remote places.) You could make a wole ceremony out of it, if that was desired.

It's a few extra steps, but maybe somewhat of a similar result, in a certain sense. And then the extra steps could give extra time for the grieving orocess, and link with the whole cycles of life thing, you know.

Anyway, that's just an idea. Hope you, and everyone, can find one that works for you, and find a way to have itgise wishes fulfilled later on. The option thts offered by recompose is cool, more options can certainly be good.

yeah. like that peron who had, it would seem, -( for medical reasons, a and by a mediacl professional) a part of their.. I think foot, amputated. They decided to keep the remains, and then.. well, there's a thought process, aintrestomg discussions, and a banquet, in the story. There's a vice news interview about it, from some years ago, if I recall.

edit: this seems to be it https://www.vice.com/en/article/gykmn7/legal-ethical-cannibalism-human-meat-tacos-reddit-wtf might need to scroll doa bit to get to the story.

Just to add to this: there is, although seeing it thuroughly implemented is comparatively uncommon, there are the practices of 'democratic education' and 'self directed education'. The sudbury valley school in massechusets is one, relatively well known, example of thiese.

In those context, the trends are, in many ways, turned on their head. They, sudbury valles school as an example, havee a website, and a a youtube channel(, accesible vΓ­a That froendly alternative frontend that I can't rember just now) , with intervies with some alumni of the school, and some published books listed with accounts from other svs graduates.

Just wanted to add, that the phenomenon described with in the comment replied to, although all too common, are not universal., nor always are they the only option.

edit: this page gives n OK overview of the self directed edu things : https://www.self-directed.org/sde . Pretty sure it can be seen as related to the question and the above reply.

edit:spelling and grammar.

2 more...

heres some points I found from a quick searcb: (specifically note point 3,... and... in another sense point 7):

"... 1. Drink more water to reduce bloating

Bloating can cause discomfort and make menstrual cramps worse. While it may sound counterintuitive, drinking water can reduce bloating during your period and alleviate some of the pain it causes. Also, drinking hot water can increase blood flow throughout your body and relax your muscles. This can lessen cramps caused by uterine contractions.

  1. Enjoy herbal teas to relieve inflammation and muscle spasms

Certain types of herbal tea have anti-inflammatory properties and antispasmodic compounds that can reduce the muscle spasms in the uterus that cause cramping. Drinking chamomile, fennel or ginger tea is an easy, natural way to relieve menstrual cramps. Plus, these herbal teas can have other benefits, like stress relief and helping with insomnia.

  1. Eat anti-inflammatory foods to relax menstrual cramps

Some foods can offer natural relief for cramps, and they taste great. Anti-inflammatory foods can help promote blood flow and relax your uterus. Try eating berries, tomatoes, pineapples and spices like turmeric, ginger or garlic. Leafy green vegetables, almonds,... can also help reduce inflammation.

  1. Skip the treats to avoid extra bloating

While a brownie or french fries might sound delicious, foods high in sugar, trans fat and salt can cause bloating and inflammation, which makes muscle pain and cramps worse. Grab a banana or another piece of fruit to fight sugar cravings, or go for unsalted nuts if you want something more savory.

...

  1. Try dietary supplements to help with menstrual symptoms

Vitamin D can help your body absorb calcium and reduce inflammation. Other supplements, including omega-3, vitamin E and magnesium, can help reduce inflammation and might even make your periods less painful. For best results, take supplements every day, not just during your period. Also, because some supplements interact with medications, be sure to ask your doctor before taking anything new.

  1. Apply heat to calm cramping

A little heat can help your muscles relax, improve blood flow and relieve tension. Try sitting with a heating pad, taking a hot shower or relaxing in a hot bath.

  1. Exercise for muscle relaxation and endorphins

If you’re in pain, exercise might be the last thing on your mind. But even gentle exercise releases endorphins that make you feel happy, reduce pain and relax your muscles. Fifteen minutes of yoga, light stretching or walking might be all you need to feel the physical and mental benefits of exercise. And if exercise is already a part of your routine, did you know that tracking your period can help you improve athletic performance?

  1. Reduce stress to improve mental and physical period symptoms

Stress may make cramps worse. Use stress relief techniques like meditation, deep breathing, yoga or your own favorite way to relieve stress. If you’re not sure how to relieve stress, try guided imagery. Simply close your eyes, take a deep breath and imagine a calm, safe place that’s significant to you. Stay focused on this space for at least a few minutes while you take slow, deep breaths... "

source : https://www.healthpartners.com/blog/13-ways-to-stop-period-pain/

I don't think I've seen it mentioned in this thread so far, so I may suggest: Some nature documentaries, particularly more recent ones, can be pretty scary, and beutufulaa and intresting too, but also scary (and not particularly gory, that's nit generally the focus) . Dread/state-of-tge-climate sort of scary, among others, and no less scary for that I think. Nature documentary movies.

Some hosted by Netflix, are free on their yt cahnnel, i think.

I like this idea. I might also reccomend, among other, perhaps similar, ideas to get a similar effect, and make use in this way of they ground floor house :.

  • putting out a 'free' table/stand. like, a table, with a sign, and stufd on to, fthats free, die passerby. Some have been quite sucessfull.

-'tiny free library.'. especially if there isn't one nearby allready. there's quite a lot of fun designs for these our there, to fit whatever style ore space. and, you could add halloween themed book to it, or any books pretty much. local bord banned a book you liked? add a copy to your local tiny library. ads 2,.. and some complementary skeleton themed bookmarks.

--a bench. nice place to rest. maybe addaa tree or aomwthing for ao. e shade of in a especially warm region. benches are fun, or can be. and yiu can paint it in oranges and bakam strops, with bays, and pkinh.

... -ooh, and you coild be like that one, well probably more than one, house that keeps up some halloween decor for longer. a way to signal to potential trick or teeter and show personality oerhaps?

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-+-idk, hallowwn is fun., for many ppl. happy nextaand future Halloweens. Halloween πŸ¦‡ πŸŽƒ πŸ¦‡ πŸŽƒ

just over the border, more or less (geography isn't neccecarily my subject) , in Washing. State, you know the one, yiu can get ylarrange for your future corpse to undergo a relatively new and novel disposition option known as 'natural organoc reduction', for the comparatively low low price of only.. around 6 to 10 k, alst o checked., includong shrouds, body storage, tests ect.

That's significantly cheaper than the avarage conventional funeral cknsts, not Jay on van iver, but in the bordering region too., and there's no ongoing upkeep costsas, there might be with a plot. after aroind six weeks, its basically done, if you wnat it that way.

And, perhaos as or more importantly the novelty can be an important aspect for some people. A burial method that very ffew others, so far, ahve hmade use of (although very much tested, and regulated, and found genuine) , as can the positiveenvironmental aspects be appealing too to aome.

aTdlr: nyway see www.recompose.life for more details of, one of, the options that could help to circumvent any need to pay any, highly overinflated and likely extortionate, rates for a funeral plot. No buing real death estate required.

some places have some level of test, or anyways interview or vetting, before becoming a childcare worker, or befire adoption. that could be seen as somethkng similar to described.

of course,multiple jurisdictions also make even accessing contraception, far more difficut that it should be, with all sorts of tests ands barriers in the way. I guess that's the opposite of, in one sense, of whats proposed perhaps.

...

And, yeah, don't do eugenics, . do, however, make contraception and scientificallya accurate sex ed, freely and widely avalable.

cardboard caskets definately do exist, I've seen them mentioned by morticians, and advertised, and they don't neccecarily look or work badly. then there are woven willow basket type caskets.

And then, this one is perhaps most similar to you the option you cite as a preference, there's the classic shroud. basically some plain woven fabric that the bidy is wrapped in. the lightest, lest resource intensive, and likely lest expensive body covering for a funeral, that i can think of. shrouds seem popular in green and natural butials, as well as a number of religious burials, and they have a history of sucessfully us that goes back some way it seems.

It's not neccecarily quite the same as used carpet, but you could probably arrange for a plain second hand sheet, or an old curtain perhaps, for your funeral if you wanted. Just make sure its biodegradable and large enough to cover a body, and you should be good (actually if you can find old carpet that meets those conditions, they might just accept that too, probably wnat to check with the burial grind staff ahead of time though).

In quite a similar spirit, perhaps, anyway. Then, with a coevring picked out, you'll probably wnat a local green or natural burial ground, as the likeliest place for a burial place that's up for that style of burial and coffin alternative.

you know, I was thinkingaabout purpose made carborad caskets, and they do exit, but reusing a fridge box seems like an even more fun idea if thats something that appeal to loving peron planning thir future funeral a More eco friendly, and more evonomical as yiu metiΓ³n. πŸ“¦

also a shout out to the idea of shorids, in that cade case a clean old beafheet of the right size and material, will probanly work just as well as any shroud, for a burial. (For some some burial grounds, no box needed, just a shroud is perfectly fine. basically a fabric sheet wrapping. low cost it potentially free)

I don't know about that one, bit I know of a somewhat similar option. Yiu can. in so. e states, havarranhe to Hove your body wrapped in a... fabric shroud, amd laid into a .. vat filled with organic material, usually woodchils and the like(wood hips are sometimes consodered a waste or a garbage product) , then after after a few weeks you ahve compost or soil basically, that can be used for land conseravtion ect.

I might add, to yiur point, that representatives of the Catholic church have repeatedly opposed this posted etah option from becoming avakabke, on the ground that get this they considerit to be undignified', (granted, they're just about the only ones who take thatbosition, one they know moanybof the detail and context, but it's a substantial and influential organisation), and then random passerby who doesn't know anything other about the process than a sensational news headline on might well condiser it undignified too, in the moment anyway.

And of course, you could consider it to be as if you had arranged for your foture corpse to be turned into literal dirt, dirt, and then what could be more gloriously u dignified than that.

... more on that subject at: https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/green-death-technology/#natural-organic-reduction and at www.recompose.life (I shiuld warn, neigher of these resources make the process sound or look larocularky undignified, but then these things are a matter of perspective after all, in some ways)

"When I die, I don’t give a shit what happens to my body, do whatever causes people and the planet the least ammount of crap. "

on that note, some links that may be useful or relevant:

https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/green-death-technology/

as well as: https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/eco-friendly-products

and: https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/green-burial/,

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and,some. things in reulation to planning ahead,, directives, wills and such death related documents (I guess this one may also then be relevant to /u/LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world ) : https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/end-of-life-planning

We'll, if the peron had access to and chose, for their future postmortem body, to undergo the disposition option of 'natural organic reduction' (also known as terramation, also known as body composting), then Ive read and heard that: any implants that contain batteries or are highly radioactive (both likely or certain to also contain metal) will be removed early on, by a professional, for safety reasons.

Other metal(, like a metal hip, or bolts,), are typically left in the body, and stay jt thought the internment ceremony, (incidentally a future customer certainly can request that a particular song or playlist be played during their internment, , and several reportedly have opted for specifically metal (genre) music to be played at this point. 🎢),

and (continuing) any metal parts then go into the pod along with the wood chips and the straw and and oxygen and everything else, they stay with the rest of the bidy the 'beehive' through the first four weeks or thereabouts, and through the peak periods of intense heat.

Then, towards the latter stages, they are eventually screened removed, using a screen. similar to that used in many other conventional composting methods. Any metal prices are returned to friends or family of they wish to keep them, or otherwise they are recycled. ♻️

The final results of the process are tested by an independent lab, for a variety of factors. One of these is heavy metal content. The results must come back, as a legislative requirement, at a heavy metal cintkentbtahtad below a specified level, before the process can finish, and the terramated remains can be returned. So far there seems to have been no issue with being below the limit.

Anyway, that seems to be the process, for those that die with metal, and who choose to have their body sent to this particular funeral services provider. (recompose). For more on that you can red more at www.recompose.life , they have a faq section.

I belive it's a similar process for other providers of n. o. r services, and(in some ways) for some alkaline hydrolisys and cremation servjices.

maybe that helps answers the question, at least in some part.

of that's an idea youre keen on, you could put it into a... loving will, or equivalent, and your will, anyway dwaath and end of life related documents. also appoint an exuctioner for those that you trust to make those bone post death art poecehappen, or anyway to try their best to make those wishes for coming part of a future grand skellie pyramid arform, or something along those lines, happen.

yiu never know, it may well be possible to make those dreams sooner, after a nk doubt long on the Future and death, than anticipated., and making some arrangements ahead of time can improve your chances, and possibly be a fun exercise in itself. 'tge order of the good death', has some useful resource on the whole planning and documents thing, espially on a North America context.

anyway. happy for you future artistic and collective bone combination ambitions for ' your future postmortem bones. rip. β˜ οΈπŸ’€πŸ¦΄πŸ¦΄πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ¦΄πŸ¦΄πŸ’€β˜ οΈπŸ‘»πŸ‘»πŸ‘»πŸ‘»πŸ‘»πŸ‘»πŸ¦΄πŸ‘»

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