turmoil

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That's not entirely correct. The Ultra-Orthodox spectrum is composed of different factions/sects that hold widely varying beliefs and interpretations of Judaism.

While a majority of Ultra-Orthodox are represented in the current government, there are also some Ultra-Orthodox factions that reject the Israeli state completely. Some won't fight due to their religious studies, some due to their pacifism, some due to their pro-Palestinian sentiment, and other will fight because of their convictions or their desire to settle in the west bank.

The infighting between these groups and their sometimes messianic beliefs and discussions are sometimes very intransparent from the outside. Sometimes internal feuds even erupt in street riots between groups or police.

Yeah, sure, European reactionaries are so well known for their inclusive position towards the LGBTQ community; it's those damn immigrants protesting drag shows and criminalizing abortion.

Stop instrumentalizing the discrimination minorities face to legitimize discrimination of other minorities, you xenophobe.

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How dare you

I don't think the Muslim community as a whole is an ally to the LGBTQ community, but to believe that this is an isolated problem that can be attributed to one single community is dishonest. By thinking that homophobia is isolated to specific communities along ethnic or religious lines and not economic or educational ones, you're replicating homonationalism.

You can and will have the same experience as an LBGTQ couple in a poor neighborhood inhabited by Muslim immigrants and a poor, conservative neighborhood inhabited by predominately white people. I would not want to hold hands with someone of the same gender in a rural Polish/Hungarian/East German/etc village.

As a cishet person, I like to keep to myself as much as possible as well. That way, you can call people out on their homo-/transphobic behavior and make them really regret what they said.