withabeard

What the fuck is it called a concession... rather than "fair market price"?

Young people were especially worried about:

• inflation (65%),
• expensive housing (54%),
• poverty in old age (48%),
• the division of society (49%)

Aaah yes, that classical list of things that a fiscally right party would solve ...

Health insurance is HOW MUCH!

And there are Brits here saying how great private care is and how much they want it... fucking turkeys to christmas.

Too late... It's already ingrained in my mind as "of course they do"

Unless it's circumcision for religious reasons ... then chopping off body parts is A'OK.

don’t expect that it will make them popular with anyone who actually uses Nvidia drivers on Linux

The group to be annoyed at are Nvidia. Plain and simple.

Microsoft did this with browsers.

HTML was a thing, that was implemented by other browsers at the time. Netscape Navigator (the precursor to Firefox) was a thing that already did HTML well. It could access the world wide web, and was the defacto standard.

Microsoft introduced internet explorer, bundled with Windows. At first, internet explorer was not as good/complete/compatible as Netscape Navigator. Over time, it got better almost to parity. But it also added new features, features not in the HTML specification. They were not added to the specification, and how IE would use those features was not made public. So Netscape could not implement them.

Users started to expect those features.

Over time, more webpages would break on Netscape than on IE. Web designers wanted the fancy new features of ie. So users moved away from Netscape.

If only a number of technical users care about something, that the "mainstream" (for want of a better word) doesn't care about. Then things work less and less for the techies.

Meta could do the same with the Fediverse. As they already have market domination in other markets, they can introduce a lot of users to our "safe space". But be real if posts stop working and you as a techie knows it's because Meta have done something funky, Grandbob Jim isn't likely to care. Grandbob Jim will continue to use what "works". And some of the less techie of us will be forced to move to the MetaFediVerse to talk to our Grandbobs.

I'll bite ...

crushing the productivity of these workers

What "crushing" of productivity are you delusionally on about?

https://assets.weforum.org/editor/HFNnYrqruqvI_-Skg2C7ZYjdcXp-6EsuSBkSyHpSbm0.png https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/11/productivity-workforce-america-united-states-wages-stagnate/

I can find any number of sources showing that productivity has been on the rise for decades, and has continued to rise as Millenials and younger entered the job market. There is no "crushing the productivity".

The rise of the internet and social media has led to a culture of instant gratification ... This sense of entitlement

Millenials and younger have gone through their entire school life being told "you need to do well this year at school, to get into the top set next year, to get into a good university to get a good job". We/they have been told this by every generation above them, for their entire lives. The have followed this, listened to their elders, worked hard through school, sat meaningless exams, gotten good meaningless grades, they have gone to university. They have worked hard their entire lives ...

Just to be told, "culture of instant gratification" "you're entitled" "you've not done the grunt work". It's selfish of the previous generations to not recognise this.

Your entire comment rings as "needs evidence" to me. To the point I'm not sure if it's satire or not. You've failed to put in any grunt work, evidence anything or source it as anything more than conjecture.

They expect to be rewarded simply for showing up, rather than for producing quality work.

This is the opposite of how I see the world, as it stands. Look at the people calling for maintaining or increasing working hours. Look at the people calling to work in office. It's the previous generations expecting people to turn up, in office and sit there for hours so they can be paid. They are expecting people to be rewarded simply for showing up.

Look at the people calling for unlimited holiday and reduced workhours, where failure to deliver is a disciplinary issue. Look at the people calling to work from home, and have the quality of their work assessed, not their dress sense or punctuality. Look at the people driving quick delivery, rapid review and peer appraisal of work. These are the people who are focussed on delivering quality, and not getting paid simply for showing up.

Blast freezer. It's about as close as we'll get any time soon. Not an affiliate or anything, just googled and found this bugger (about microwave sized).

https://www.nisbets.co.uk/polar-countertop-blast-chiller/ck640

Brother

I live in the valleys of south Wales. Walk through old coal mining areas and you'll occasionally find lumps of it on the ground.

I don't see the flow as a problem. But if you do see the flow as a problem I can see reasons a right leaning government would be the way you'd vote.

I also see why "cheap brown Labour" is a reason to allow immigration. So that one swings both ways enough I didn't include it.

I personally welcome my always was Chinese overlord

If your livelihood depends on a company breaking the law, you've got other issues.

Nvidia could choose to follow the law, their customers could choose to support them in that.

Part of the reason you can't replace Nvidia, is because they get ahead by breaking the law. This makes it harder to compete with them.

Now you're stuck with only Nvidia, and welcome to monopoly hell. A bit exaggerated I know, but it's his it happens.

These are hookers... just expensive ones

Lots of people are talking about this in terms of money... And we do live in a strongly capitalist society.

UBI or similar could be useful.

But... Money was created to find a way to compare one workers "value" to real world goods. When the worker doesn't need goods (no AI needs 4 chickens and a bushel of grain a week) the workers value doesn't need to be compared. There is less foundational value in money.

We could move away from net worth measured in hoarding money, and start taking about attending currencies such as social worth. Someones worth could be earned in being useful/helpful to society and we as a society could choose to give more resource to that person. Just an example, but a line of thought to go down

A totally separate area for discussion. I believe (most) people have a general need for purpose. Without "work" as we know it, lots of people could find themselves devoid of purpose. I have a feeling some of the ills of today's world are because people are not finding social purpose in the work we do. Who really deeply cares about being the middle manager of a packaging company? I believe some of today's mental health plagues are linked to this.

Remove even more "work" and do people find purpose in other things? Does that help or hinder?

Lots of people think with UBI we'll all turn to art and culture. But frankly there's only so much art each one of us can look at in a lifetime. What happens when too many people are sitting making boobs in clay? Do sculptures loose their artistic and cultural value? Is art and culture alone, enough to provide the whole of society with purpose?

Which is the greater of two evils? People being required to slog through monotonous work, or people having nothing to do at all?

So much chocolate weighed through the scales as "fresh veg potatoes"

You might even be able to afford the "good" healthcare 🤣

Nvidia could choose to improve performance using non-illegal tactics.

They haven't.

I'm happy to live in a society wherev we support those upholding the law.

Sadly, only somewhat true nowadays.

There are plenty of parts of healthcare that are privatised and pay only. Some of this paid for by the NHS and the current government are attacking the "costs" of that. Especially as the treatments are often more expensive when done privately than they were on the NHS. Dental and optical treatment are privatised now. Much of our ambulance and rescue service are now private or voluntary. We're seeing ever increasing costs for the ambulance services, while watching wait times skyrocket. Given private ambulance firms are measured on a few KPIs, they are targeting those over general care. Many surgeries that used to be covered (such a cleft lip) by the NHS are now regarded as cosmetic and come with insurance deductibles or are not even covered by insurance.

Many industries, such as software development, are offering private cover as a workplace bonus. What that means in reality is when I come off my motorbike, the expensive emergency surgery I need will be covered by an NHS surgeon. The insurance company will then "elect" to pay for me to be moved to a comfortable hotel/hospital where I can stay in comfort. That comfort is what I'll be paying my insurance for, not the actual surgery.

That's just how the world works.

And that's kind of the discussion here.

Some people are annoyed at the Linux Devs because "fuck it, everyone breaks the law and it doesn't matter". Some people are annoyed at Nvidia because they'd like to uphold or social contracts.

In don't think it's naive to want to live in a world and support a society that supports the law. I do think we have bigger issues that people are happy with this behaviour and are actively defending it.

"what someone is willing to pay"

Sounds pretty fair market price to me.