Is America Really That Bad?

Cannizzaro@feddit.ch to No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world – 313 points –

Been seeing a lot about how the government passes shitty laws, lot of mass shootings and expensive asf health care. I come from a developing nation and we were always told how America is great and whatnot. Are all states is America bad ?

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Trying to downplay the old gun violence again? There is still this though: https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/us/school-shooting-us-versus-world-trnd/index.html

And those numbers only go up to 2018. This year, we have already had as many school shootings by June as during the entire year of 2018: https://www.edweek.org/leadership/school-shootings-this-year-how-many-and-where/2023/01

But yeah, I guess some people consider that 'scare tactics'. smh

Yes, this is exactly what I was talking about.

But yes, don't let silly facts get in the way of your narrative.

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

This spring the U.S. Education Department reported that in the 2015-2016 school year, "nearly 240 schools ... reported at least 1 incident involving a school-related shooting." The number is far higher than most other estimates.

But NPR reached out to every one of those schools repeatedly over the course of three months and found that more than two-thirds of these reported incidents never happened. Child Trends, a nonpartisan nonprofit research organization, assisted NPR in analyzing data from the government's Civil Rights Data Collection.

We were able to confirm just 11 reported incidents, either directly with schools or through media reports.

So what about statistics from the Center of Homeland Defense and Security? Probably also just inflated, right? https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/a01

Do you not realize how much lower those numbers are than what you originally posted?

You are undermining your own claim.

They also include deaths that never happened at schools.

Also from your own link:

The percentage of youth homicides occurring at school remained at less than 3 percent of the total number of youth homicides

From your own data, in 2018, there were 10 homicides of youths in schools.

https://www.census.gov/topics/education/school-enrollment.html

On average in America, there are 73.8 million students in school.

That's a percentage of .0000001%

Very close to your chances of dying from a lightning strike (.0000006%)

https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-victims