Pope says 'backward' US conservatives replaced faith with ideology

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Pope Francis condemned the "very strong, organised, reactionary attitude" in the US church and said Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the US Catholic Church, saying they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Francis’ comments were an acknowledgment of the divisions in the US Catholic Church, which has been split between progressives and conservatives who long found support in the doctrinaire papacies of St John Paul II and Benedict XVI, particularly on issues of abortion and same-sex marriage.

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No Council of Nicaea fans?

Constantine: Ok guys, nobody leaves the room until we sort out this Holy Trinity thing you're all killing each other over.

I still have no clue what's up with the holy trinity tbh 🤨

I chalk it up to, "well, glad i'm not christian" and leave it at that as much as I can.

Well neither did Constantine. But people were killing each other over it, so... Council of Nicaea. From what I understand he didn't really say anything in the Council, just sat there and let all the priests argue it out.

I left catholocism shortly after getting my CS degree, but I think it works roughly like this:

class Trinity {
 private:
  God g;
 public:
  God&amp; father = g;
  God&amp; son = g;
  God&amp; holy_spirit = g;
};

Edit: stupid Lemmy can't render ampersands correctly: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3774

Basically the holy trinity is the idea that Jesus,God and the Holy Spirit are all aspects of the same being. They are not independent of each other.

In Lovecraftian terms the full extent of God is an eldritch being is so incomprehensible that it would break mortals if he appears directly to them. Jesus and the Holy spirit are two ways that god can interact with mortals without them, or the universe, breaking. They are not lesser separate gods .

Think of it how like the US gov is made up of the executive, judicial, and legislative branches but they're all part of the government.

you can just smell the divinity

We're not all that different. We just replaced religion with ideology, but it's not all that different. Still killing each other over stupid shit and pretending it's the righteous thing to do.