"We're shocked that Joe Rogan would do this" - people who watched Joe Rogan do this to everyone else

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Scientists on Twitter head for the exit
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A feud on Twitter highlights the perils of engaging on the platform and a growing tension among researchers and medical professionals.

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Rogan had RFKjr on his show spouting anti-vax nonsense for three hours, they were called out by a scientist involved with developing COVID vaccines, and then they piled on when said scientist refused to "debate" RFKjr on the podcast.

What's funny is RFK jr admitted multiple times he didn't understand fuckall about the conspiracies he was spouting, but for some reason they think it would be a good idea for him to debate ANYONE about vaccines lmao

They think it would be a good idea because they aren't interested in actual debate so much as performance and sound-bites to drive advertising revenue - to quote Sartre's point that increasingly applies in so many situations these days:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

He’s a stunt, JFK’s generational legacy is a reminder that aristocracy has not gone away, it just pantomimes as a participant in democracy.

I watched a clip where he tells Joe that wifi causes brain cancer and Joe like a fucking idiot buys it.

I loath the idea of debating conspiracy theorists, it give them a platform and lends legitimacy to their ideas. Daniel Dennett said it right that these people are playing tennis without the net. No logic or reasoning will matter nor proofs of any kind, they aren't motivated by good faith discovery and discussions.