What is your opinion about Lemmy not having karma but Kbin having reputation points?

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Personally, I prefer Lemmy over Kbin because I hate karma and reputation points. I do not want to worry about downvotes, and Lemmy feels so fresh. I can post things that will receive lots of downvotes and not need to worry about losing karma.

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I like that the total values of both votes are shown. It's better than the way reddit has it at least.

Agreed, Reddit used to show up/down counts but got rid of it and I thought that was a stupid choice on their part. Reddit also did other weird manipulations to the upvote count on posts which I'm glad we don't have here.

People tend to upvote and believe anything that already has a lot of upvotes. Seeing downvotes is a good red flag to warn users to not blindly believe everything they see with positive karma.

I think the current system is harder to manipulate than reddit

It is still possible through the API (for now), and maybe the official website, to view the percentage of upvotes to downvotes, but not the number of downvotes themselves

I think it's overall a good feature, but it's also a bit unfortunate that you can't vote based on the score that you think something should have, without that vote carrying an additional (unintended) meaning.

Like if someone gives a poorly thought out but otherwise good faith opinion. Maybe it has a score of -50 but it only deserves -10. Now my upvote might be seen as proof that at least one other discussion participant supports that opinion, when that's not actually the case.

It is weird that we vote like that. I find myself bringing a lot of good faith comments back up from 0 not because I agree with it, but because I think it is a comment worth 1 upvote lol

Please keep it every other site has removed the idea of a downvote and here we got total and we can see up/downvotes