Will the world ever stop being anti-intellectual?

ThePenitentOne@discuss.online to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml – 465 points –

One of the most aggravating things to me in this world has to be the absolutely rampant anti-intellectualism that dominates so many conversations and debates, and its influence just seems to be expanding. Do you think there will ever actually be a time when this ends? I'd hope so once people become more educated and cultural changes eventually happen, but as of now it honestly infuriates me like few things ever have.

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Ayn Rand once said "It is not I who will die, it is the world." I will never stop being anti-intellectual personally so when I die it can't change.

Sorry, the answer is no but if you trust the quote the world will only exist for another 30-40 years so I wouldn't worry.

It's alright, Rand was wrong about that statement just like she was wrong about virtually everything she said.

Seriously. Bizarre quote to take as truth on a communist forum

tbf lemmy.ml is mostly neolib in practice.

Wait, but that's a hexbear user? What?

Nah it's a bit. No one actually unironically identifies as anti-intellectual.

I'm kinda of a Diogenes figure. Sometimes you get "behold a man" and sometimes you get a homeless man yelling at passerbys.

I'm kinda of a Diogenes figure.

No. You're just being obnoxiously smug while expecting people to praise you as some sort of eccentric philosopher.

“But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.” ― Carl Sagan

There's countless "Digoenes figures" like yourself already and they all believe they are the Main Character, too. And like you already did in the other comment chain here, they also get just as mad when their junk philosophy (such as, in your case, Ayn Rand) gets called out. cringe

No. You're just being obnoxiously smug while expecting people to praise you as some sort of eccentric philosopher.

Literally describing myself as a homeless man and anti-intellectual. No one is taking it seriously but you man.

Are you seriously invoking Ayn Rand as a source of wisdom? sus-soviet

And that particularly solipsistic quote? what-the-hell

Oh look another "materialist" who relies on the pan-psychic influence of others to determine reality. How Jungian of you. Thatcher once said, "there is no society, only individuals." Do you disagree? I imagine so. Even Marx called out Commodity Fetishism but you put the greatest fetish of all on society and reality as something inherent. If reality is just an interplay of individuals, the truth proven by both Rand and Marx, then an individual is free to form their own reality away from your own.

::: spoiler You'll never know the true truth because you're still enslaved the collective unconsciousness. :::

Also, did you really think someone was actually identifying as anti-intellectual. Come on, I know you couldn't understand the the ironic Freud in your "I want dommy mommy to step on me" thread but this is ridiculous. Looks like you got owned on two fetishes, mommy and commodity.

wtf-am-i-reading

You believe you are the Main Character of the universe and that everything ceases to exist when you die. And you're accusing me of believing in woo bullshit. ok

And you're such a scratched liberal that you started foaming at the mouth with some weird personal attack you've been holding on to, apparently, for weeks. rent-free

Solipsism is a helluva drug.

You believe you are the Main Character of the universe and that everything ceases to exist when you die

Man you really don't understand when people are doing bits. You think people would just go on the internet and not mean literally everything they type?

Hexbear needs a villian, don't you understand UlyssesT? You wouldn't be having half of the enjoyment in this conversation if I just did a normal comment. But now I got to do a silly bit and you got to pretend you're arguing with someone serious.

Discussion on the internet is inherently worthless because no one ever changes their opinions. It's a black box in which no matter the inputs, the outputs remain the same. Is it really so wrong then to lay down ideas like "seriousness" if it doesn't change anything? Your answer will be of course that I'm delusional and only doing this to cope or something because that's what your opinion started as. No matter what you or I say, we cannot change.

Stop posting and touch grass if you want truth, nothing here matters.

Man you really don't understand when people are doing bits.

Being obnoxious and falling back to "it was just a bit" is tiresome and belongs in the dustbin of history right alongside the "ironic" nazis of 4chan. Insincere people like you can move the goalposts all you want but I just see the obnoxious part and stop there because that's all there usually is under those pretentious masks of irony.

Stop posting and touch grass if you want truth

You first, especially because of your masturbatory "I am internet Diogenes" LARPing attempts, be they bits or ironic or whatever you want to pretend they were.

Discussion on the internet is inherently worthless

Your internet nihilism is childish and about 20 years stale. 4chan is still open if you want to go somewhere that still praises internet nihilism.

nothing here matters

If you're not being praised for your Diogenes LARP, bit or irony or whatever, nothing matters because all you care about is being praised for your bit/irony/very-smartness!

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