@yogthos It's amazing that you completely misunderstood what I said. I said they don't do it without reasons that are accepted by the world community. And... after they're done, they leave. They don't annex the land... like Russia. They're not doing it for conquest as Russia does.
I don't remember UN resolutions authorizing any of these wars. What is this world community you speak of exactly? And no, they don't leave, US is currently occupying a chunk of Syria. US has annexed a part of Cuba where it runs a torture camp. You are either a liar or an ignoramus, either way you should be deeply ashamed of yourself.
@yogthos 😂 Did you see any UN vote approving the invasion of Ukraine? Also, they have not annexed any part of Syria. They are occupying it. That's different. They will eventually leave just like they did Iraq and Afghanistan. As for Cuba, they do have Guantanamo but they also still recognize Cuba as the rightful owner of the land. They didn't have the US version of a Russian Duma annex it. That's the part you keep glossing over. Russia ANNEXED part of Ukraine.
Unlike you trying to justify the atrocities NATO commits, I'm not justifying the invasion of Ukraine. I'm just pointing out that Russia isn't doing anything that doesn't follow the precedent that the US led "rules based" world order has set up. In fact, the invasion of Ukraine is directly modelled on the invasion of Yugoslavia by NATO where NATO recognized the independence of the breakaway regions and then had them invite NATO for support. US hasn't left Iraq, and they were forced out of Afghanistan by the people of Afghanistan. They didn't choose to leave.
As for Cuba, they do have Guantanamo but they also still recognize Cuba as the rightful owner of the land. They didn’t have the US version of a Russian Duma annex it. That’s the part you keep glossing over. Russia ANNEXED part of Ukraine.
Olympic levels of mental gymnastics here. You keep on digging there buddy.
@yogthos I didn’t say anything about Slobodan Milosevic. I said Yugoslavia was bombed to stop genocide. Milosevic was exonerated because they could find no link between him and the genocide. But the genocide was still taking place under his watch and that’s why Yugoslavia was bombed. In that regard, he’s irrelevant. Yugoslavia was bombed to stop the genocide and it worked. In Ukraine, Russia is the one doing the murdering and war crimes.
There's a lot more concrete evidence for the genocide in Donbas that Ukraine was conducting since 2014, but you keep on going.
@yogthos also, there have been no credible reports that Ukrainians were doing any kind of ethnic cleansing or genocide prior to Russian invasions. There have been made-up reports by Kremlin backed groups, claiming Ukrainian genocide. All of which, crumble under any inspection, or attempt to validate its legitimacy.
Literally linked those credible reports in an earlier reply, but keep on going there.
@yogthos dude, literally, the first link you shared was a known communist propaganda outlet that is sponsored by the governments of Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba, and Nicaragua. You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t put much stock in the propaganda links you provided.
Oh, I'm sorry I shared something that's outside of your prescribed genocidal empire propaganda diet.
@yogthos lol inside or outside doesn’t matter. Facts matter. And this is a routinely misleading outlet. It’s no wonder you’re clueless about international affairs. 😂🤷♂️
@yogthos It's amazing that you completely misunderstood what I said. I said they don't do it without reasons that are accepted by the world community. And... after they're done, they leave. They don't annex the land... like Russia. They're not doing it for conquest as Russia does.
I don't remember UN resolutions authorizing any of these wars. What is this world community you speak of exactly? And no, they don't leave, US is currently occupying a chunk of Syria. US has annexed a part of Cuba where it runs a torture camp. You are either a liar or an ignoramus, either way you should be deeply ashamed of yourself.
@yogthos 😂 Did you see any UN vote approving the invasion of Ukraine? Also, they have not annexed any part of Syria. They are occupying it. That's different. They will eventually leave just like they did Iraq and Afghanistan. As for Cuba, they do have Guantanamo but they also still recognize Cuba as the rightful owner of the land. They didn't have the US version of a Russian Duma annex it. That's the part you keep glossing over. Russia ANNEXED part of Ukraine.
Unlike you trying to justify the atrocities NATO commits, I'm not justifying the invasion of Ukraine. I'm just pointing out that Russia isn't doing anything that doesn't follow the precedent that the US led "rules based" world order has set up. In fact, the invasion of Ukraine is directly modelled on the invasion of Yugoslavia by NATO where NATO recognized the independence of the breakaway regions and then had them invite NATO for support. US hasn't left Iraq, and they were forced out of Afghanistan by the people of Afghanistan. They didn't choose to leave.
Olympic levels of mental gymnastics here. You keep on digging there buddy.
@yogthos it doesn’t take mental gymnastics to know that NATO and the United States doesn’t annex other countries in whole or in part. They cooperate with the international community to prevent genocide and mass murder. Unlike Russia, who annexed part of Ukraine and committed mass murder among other #warcrimes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War\_crimes\_in\_the\_Russian\_invasion\_of\_Ukraine#:\~:text=the%20UN%20Human%20Rights%20Monitoring,some%20of%20them%20summarily%20executed.
Over 6 million people have been massacred in the war of terror. That's what mass murder actually looks like https://bylinetimes.com/2021/09/15/up-to-six-million-people-the-unrecorded-fatalities-of-the-war-on-terror/
@yogthos not to mention, NATO attacked Yugoslavia to stop genocide. Are you advocating genocide? You seem to take issue with the prevention of it.
Exactly the same excuse Russia used to intervene in Ukraine.
@yogthos oh, it was the same excuse. The difference was there was no genocide in Ukraine like there was in Yugoslavia.
wrong as usual
Meanwhile, plenty of evidence of ethnic cleansing happening in Ukraine after western backed coup in 2014
@yogthos I didn’t say anything about Slobodan Milosevic. I said Yugoslavia was bombed to stop genocide. Milosevic was exonerated because they could find no link between him and the genocide. But the genocide was still taking place under his watch and that’s why Yugoslavia was bombed. In that regard, he’s irrelevant. Yugoslavia was bombed to stop the genocide and it worked. In Ukraine, Russia is the one doing the murdering and war crimes.
There's a lot more concrete evidence for the genocide in Donbas that Ukraine was conducting since 2014, but you keep on going.
@yogthos also, there have been no credible reports that Ukrainians were doing any kind of ethnic cleansing or genocide prior to Russian invasions. There have been made-up reports by Kremlin backed groups, claiming Ukrainian genocide. All of which, crumble under any inspection, or attempt to validate its legitimacy.
Literally linked those credible reports in an earlier reply, but keep on going there.
@yogthos dude, literally, the first link you shared was a known communist propaganda outlet that is sponsored by the governments of Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba, and Nicaragua. You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t put much stock in the propaganda links you provided.
Oh, I'm sorry I shared something that's outside of your prescribed genocidal empire propaganda diet.
@yogthos lol inside or outside doesn’t matter. Facts matter. And this is a routinely misleading outlet. It’s no wonder you’re clueless about international affairs. 😂🤷♂️