The "products" are not entirely YouTube's. They are more like a giant mall than a store. You can't just stop going to the mall because you don't like a policy they have because everyone else has set up shop in that mall. Unlike stores, if a mall didn't exist, most of the stores in the mall would just exist elsewhere. YouTube is not the product, they are the gatekeepers.
yeah but if the giant mall didn't exist than lots of those shops simply wouldn't have the foot traffic to keep open or exist in the first place.
lots of content creators are also uploading their stuff to paid services like Floatplane, Patreon, CuriosityStream or whatever, do you pay for those?
if not why don't we just stop pretending what this is about and be honest that you want a service of millions of videos for free and without ads and someone will pay for it? I guess?
I didn't really care about blocking ads until I started seeing midroll and unskippable ads. If that mall didn't exist, another one could've popped up with less aggressive policies. Sure, there are other malls now, but all my favorite stores are in this one.
and my favorite Ice-cream is ben and jerry's but only one store carries it now in my town, Guess I will have to go to that store to get it if I really want it, or just not get it, because you know, I am not exactly entitled to have ben and jerry's ice cream.
The entire point of this post is that Google felt entitled to violate your privacy by detecting your ad blocker. It's an arms race. If they are free to dictate their terms of service, we are free to dictate what gets displayed on our own computers.
I didn't say you aren't free to do that, but let's just stop pretending it's not pure entitlement that you do that, that you want youtube to be both free and ad-free.
The "products" are not entirely YouTube's. They are more like a giant mall than a store. You can't just stop going to the mall because you don't like a policy they have because everyone else has set up shop in that mall. Unlike stores, if a mall didn't exist, most of the stores in the mall would just exist elsewhere. YouTube is not the product, they are the gatekeepers.
yeah but if the giant mall didn't exist than lots of those shops simply wouldn't have the foot traffic to keep open or exist in the first place.
lots of content creators are also uploading their stuff to paid services like Floatplane, Patreon, CuriosityStream or whatever, do you pay for those?
if not why don't we just stop pretending what this is about and be honest that you want a service of millions of videos for free and without ads and someone will pay for it? I guess?
I didn't really care about blocking ads until I started seeing midroll and unskippable ads. If that mall didn't exist, another one could've popped up with less aggressive policies. Sure, there are other malls now, but all my favorite stores are in this one.
and my favorite Ice-cream is ben and jerry's but only one store carries it now in my town, Guess I will have to go to that store to get it if I really want it, or just not get it, because you know, I am not exactly entitled to have ben and jerry's ice cream.
The entire point of this post is that Google felt entitled to violate your privacy by detecting your ad blocker. It's an arms race. If they are free to dictate their terms of service, we are free to dictate what gets displayed on our own computers.
I didn't say you aren't free to do that, but let's just stop pretending it's not pure entitlement that you do that, that you want youtube to be both free and ad-free.