What are some companies that deserve to be boycotted to death?

erik111189@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world – 349 points –

So far my list includes Comcast, EA, and Nestle. Tell me yours, and I'll help out.

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Because there was nothing else to compare it to at the time. It was the first viable hybrid, we agree on that. The part that I'm having a hard time explaining is that it was not hugely successful and not the motivation for all current EV's. It wasn't even a plug-in hybrid until 2012. That is 9 years AFTER Tesla.

Major manufactures did not attempt EVs until Tesla made a killing on them. Most of them did not even make serious attempts at hybrids until the mid 2000's.

Because there was nothing else to compare it to at the time.

grab this thread, you can maybe start to understand how they were instrumental in creating and proving the EV market that Tesla would eventually capitalise on top of

I understand your argument, I just don't think it is right.

The Prius never motivated other car manufactures to make EVs. Seriously, tooling the assembly lines did not begin until after Tesla.

Why did it take a decade to go from Prius to Tesla, but a only a few years after Tesla for other manufactures to start seriously producing hybrids and EVs?

I mean the answer to your last thing is battery technology. the lithium ion battery boom is the real driver of EV's in general. you really gotta understand the role that Tesla played here is to surf on the wave, not create it.

  1. a bunch of weirdo cars came out that were based on lead acid batteries in the 70s? i think, that killed that market
  2. Prius proved the market existed with their Hybrid, that demand was there. they also totally dominated the market with their brand and no one else was tooled up for it.
  3. Batteries with the capability of pushing hybrids, ev's boomed into mass scale in the mid-2000's
  4. Tesla and many others take advantage of both of these things happening to great success.

Prius made the market look negligible because it was such a repulsive piece of shit most people were too embarrassed to buy them.

Tesla built charging infrastructure. Nobody was willing to rely on an EV, that’s “electric vehicle”, because they didn’t trust the range or the ability to recharge.

That’s why instead of producing EVs, it produced one hybrid, which never at any moment ever asked a consumer to rely entirely on electricity for their transportation.

I'm totally okay with talking about tesla's charging infrastructure being good, but that's a different thing isn't it.

I mean the answer to your last thing is battery technology.

I agree that battery tech is what brought about full EVs. I still disagree that the Prius did.

Tesla and many others take advantage of both of these things happening to great success.

Could you please name a just couple of the "many others" that successfully implemented the new battery chemistry into their cars? Actually just one other would do. I apologize if that sounds rude it's not my intention. I can't think of a better way of wording this.