I'm trying to get your point. But a jew indicates a person of Jewish religion. In most dictionaries "Chinese" will mean "someone or something from China". I don't know what the word meant before the nation China arose or if there are ethnic meanings to it, but words mean what people understand them to mean, that's language, so Chinese kinda means "from China" today. That's why America now kinda means the country and democracy means republic or other form of majority-rule representative democracy 🤷 (the two lost words I miss the most)
In most dictionaries “Chinese” will mean “someone or something from China”.
You're not wrong, and there's the problem. There are around 50M people of Chinese ethnicity living outside of China. Most of us were born and raised outside of China, and have little to no actual connection to the nation. In many cases our families migrated away from China generations ago. Unfortunately, China is all too happy to claim all Chinese people worldwide as a monolithic culture and suppress whatever bits and pieces they don't agree with. In the same way that Israel uses their reputation as THE Jewish country for political points, so does China.
Me, I'm not a nation-state, so the best I can do is raise a tiny bit of awareness wherever I go, that just because I'm ethnic Chinese, does not mean that I love Pooh Bear (well I do love the original one, but that's a different story). Hence I'll happily spend time explaining to new acquaintances that yes, I'm Chinese. But no, I'm not from China. Maybe one day the dictionary definitions will change. shrug
It's dangerous to confuse a national identity with an ethnic one. But I grant you, it's nations who are at fault with claiming the terms and other ones by acknowledging them.
But aside from that (and I just wonder), is there such a thing as a Chinese ethnicity? I always imagined China was pretty diverse, ethnic-wise. With the northern mountain people, the coastal people the western people (I don't know names or terms) being quite different from one another.. Is that not true?
I always imagined China was pretty diverse, ethnic-wise. With the northern mountain people, the coastal people the western people (I don’t know names or terms) being quite different from one another
You're correct, but think of it in the sense of 'Caucasians'. You can break them down into subgroups that largely correlate to specific geographical regions, but as a group they're still pretty distinct and recognisable. Of course, things like this tend to get fuzzy around the edges, but that's biology for you.
I think there's a super group Chinese people are part of like caucasians, I don't remember the exact term
I'm trying to get your point. But a jew indicates a person of Jewish religion. In most dictionaries "Chinese" will mean "someone or something from China". I don't know what the word meant before the nation China arose or if there are ethnic meanings to it, but words mean what people understand them to mean, that's language, so Chinese kinda means "from China" today. That's why America now kinda means the country and democracy means republic or other form of majority-rule representative democracy 🤷 (the two lost words I miss the most)
You're not wrong, and there's the problem. There are around 50M people of Chinese ethnicity living outside of China. Most of us were born and raised outside of China, and have little to no actual connection to the nation. In many cases our families migrated away from China generations ago. Unfortunately, China is all too happy to claim all Chinese people worldwide as a monolithic culture and suppress whatever bits and pieces they don't agree with. In the same way that Israel uses their reputation as THE Jewish country for political points, so does China.
Me, I'm not a nation-state, so the best I can do is raise a tiny bit of awareness wherever I go, that just because I'm ethnic Chinese, does not mean that I love Pooh Bear (well I do love the original one, but that's a different story). Hence I'll happily spend time explaining to new acquaintances that yes, I'm Chinese. But no, I'm not from China. Maybe one day the dictionary definitions will change. shrug
It's dangerous to confuse a national identity with an ethnic one. But I grant you, it's nations who are at fault with claiming the terms and other ones by acknowledging them.
But aside from that (and I just wonder), is there such a thing as a Chinese ethnicity? I always imagined China was pretty diverse, ethnic-wise. With the northern mountain people, the coastal people the western people (I don't know names or terms) being quite different from one another.. Is that not true?
You're correct, but think of it in the sense of 'Caucasians'. You can break them down into subgroups that largely correlate to specific geographical regions, but as a group they're still pretty distinct and recognisable. Of course, things like this tend to get fuzzy around the edges, but that's biology for you.
I think there's a super group Chinese people are part of like caucasians, I don't remember the exact term