Trying to help move a few communities off reddit. Confused about Kbin vs Lemmy and some of the migration tools.

Reddit Migration@kbin.social – 42 points – 1 years ago

Hello All,

I'm trying to assist in migrating a few subs over to Kbin/Lemmy, I'm still confused on the difference between Kbin and Lemmy.

Regardless, have been looking into tools to migrate content from the subs, and came across this one https://github.com/rileynull/RedditLemmyImporter

However, the readme assumes readers have knowledge they don't have, so it's for example not clear to me if it's possible to "import" the database created by this tool to an existing lemmy instance or if I would need to create an entirely new instance just to host the content (and then what? can instances be "merged"?)

Thanks for your time in advance.

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Lemmy and Kbin are very similar, it’s reasonable to be confused. Very important, Lemmy instances and Kbin instances can interact with each other’s content, so whatever your choice ends up being won’t be about content since they have effectively the same content.

The difference between the two lies in some behavior differences (for instance, Lemmy intentionally doesn’t have a karma system, and Kbin does), in their very different web UXs, and since their APIs are different, the native apps talking to each are also different apps.

There’s also an ideological aspect, the creators of Lemmy initially created it because they were finding Reddit content to be too US-centric. Some say that they support communist dictatorships, but I’ve looked a bit, and evidence of that is flimsy, it looks more like they decided not to suppress anti-American content on their instance, and people may have extrapolated a bit. Or maybe there is truth to the rumor and it’s just well-hidden? 🤔 I believe the creator of Kbin started it because he disagreed with what he understood as the ideology of Lemmy’s creators.

I’m on Lemmy because it and its apps are more mature, and I’m not convinced by karma systems and what they may incentivize. And because I don’t find the case for the creators being extremists to be very convincing, from what I’ve seen. But Kbin looks pretty decent too.

I’m afraid I don’t don’t have answers to your other questions, but I thought I’d inform on this.

There's evidence in the modlogs that the Lemmy developers (who are also the admins of lemmy.ml) have been banning users and removing posts from lemmy.ml with a reason of 'orientalism' or 'racism' when those users say anything mildly critical of China.
So it's a bit more than just refusing to suppress anti-American content on their instance.

The evidence of Lemmy devs being tankies who deny human rights violations and censor negative talk about the CCP is not filmsy.

https://kbin.social/m/lemmyworld@lemmy.world/t/47012/-/comment/196579

Read right here if you don't bother to click the link and see the "flimsy evidence".

Here is one of the Lemmy devs denying that the Uyghur genocide in China is happening:

https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/xq49ct/deleted\_by\_user/iq954mu/

"The Uyghur genocide is as real as white genocide."

Here they are again denying it:

https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/xq49ct/deleted\_by\_user/iq951cv/

"The holocaust was a genocide that actually happened, with all the evidence that goes along with it. There is no Uyghur genocide."

"Do you believe in anything as soon as the word "genocide" gets attached to it? What about "white genocide"? Are you a white genocide denier?"

And just so nobody can deny that parentis_shotgun is a Lemmy dev: -

"I'm one of the devs of Lemmy" https://i.imgur.com/5kp9BP0.png

Direct links to the posts will not work but still exist on the user's profile page: https://old.reddit.com/user/parentis\_shotgun/ - hold PgDn until comments stop loading then Control+F. In fact feel free to peruse their history in general - it's quite interesting.

One of my favorite posts is their defense of the government of North Korea in /r/AskTankies: https://old.reddit.com/r/asktankies/comments/tb1836/okay\_but\_dprk\_seriously/i04d1wu/

Now ask yourself why would someone who is not a Red Fascist Tankie piece of shit be answering questions on behalf of Tankies in /r/AskTankies while defending a totalitarian regime? Is it... perhaps because they're in support of such a regime because they are in fact a Tankie piece of shit?

Thank you very much for the informative response, much appreciated!