I also don't get the jump from industrial Ag and wheat.
Can you word your point differently?
Wheat is vegan, even if animals are harmed in the process of growing and harvesting it (pesticides, rodents in combine harvesters).
Venus fly traps are vegan, even if they harmed flies.
What if the meat was harvested in a humane manner? Nitrogen asphyxiation, for instance, which is being trialed for use on humans wishing to commit suicide?
I'm not debating the merits current meat harvesting; on an industrial scale it's abhorrent. I'm just mostly wanting to know where the line is drawn
In my case I point out above, the only real differences is that humans have a choice and animals would not (this is a big one, I will grant you) and what is ultimately consumed.
The animal has a inherent will to live, there is no way to compassionately kill someone that doesn't want to die. Euthanasia is very different because the being actually wants to die.
I acknowledged that in the comment above you.
I'm just mostly wanting to know where the line is drawn
There is no single line. People have their own principles and can think for themselves what they do and do not support, instead of just following the masses.
It really feels like you're trying way too hard to "checkmate vegans". Why do you care so much?
Your double negative is throwing me for a loop.
I also don't get the jump from industrial Ag and wheat.
Can you word your point differently?
Wheat is vegan, even if animals are harmed in the process of growing and harvesting it (pesticides, rodents in combine harvesters).
Venus fly traps are vegan, even if they harmed flies.
What if the meat was harvested in a humane manner? Nitrogen asphyxiation, for instance, which is being trialed for use on humans wishing to commit suicide?
I'm not debating the merits current meat harvesting; on an industrial scale it's abhorrent. I'm just mostly wanting to know where the line is drawn
In my case I point out above, the only real differences is that humans have a choice and animals would not (this is a big one, I will grant you) and what is ultimately consumed.
The animal has a inherent will to live, there is no way to compassionately kill someone that doesn't want to die. Euthanasia is very different because the being actually wants to die.
I acknowledged that in the comment above you.
There is no single line. People have their own principles and can think for themselves what they do and do not support, instead of just following the masses.
It really feels like you're trying way too hard to "checkmate vegans". Why do you care so much?