Biden Is Putting Arab Americans in an Impossible Position

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Only 17% of Arab American voters say they will vote for Biden in 2024, according to a new poll.

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First off:

I'm a zionist - Biden himself, literally

Second: It shouldn't be hard to understand that Muslims want to send a message, a Biden loss would result in introspection in the democratic party (if they have the wherewithal, highly doubtful)

Third: Plenty of Jewish people particularly in America do not unconditionally support Israel as Biden has. All he had to do is force humanitarian aid through in return for further aid. Which would allow the least amount of anger from both sides.

Instead he has decided to completely ignore the very legitimate grievances of one side while fully endorsing the other. Which is exactly what the GOP does, do they enjoy wide Jewish support?

Lastly:

Once you start throwing around extremist rhetoric like "zionist", I stop paying attention

Thanks for discussing this in good faith by calling my reasonable grievances "extremist rhetoric". This is exactly what is alienating Muslims. Perfectly proving the point.

First off:

I’m a zionist - Biden himself, literally

Second: It shouldn’t be hard to understand that Muslims want to send a message,

And the message you'll be sending is that you're perfectly OK electing a President who actively hates you and wants you deported. In what universe do you think Trump is going to be any better for the Muslim community?

a Biden loss would result in introspection in the democratic party (if they have the wherewithal, highly doubtful)

No, it'll cause them to wait and say "I told you so" when Trump makes your situation exponentially worse.

Third: Plenty of Jewish people particularly in America do not unconditionally support Israel as Biden has. All he had to do is force humanitarian aid through in return for further aid. Which would allow the least amount of anger from both sides.

It would have done no such thing. It would just cause both sides to demand answers as to why Biden isn't trying to step in and interfere on their behalf.

Instead he has decided to completely ignore the very legitimate grievances of one side while fully endorsing the other. Which is exactly what the GOP does, do they enjoy wide Jewish support?

Again, you are advocating punishing Biden for his decision in all of this by advocating for the re-election of someone who will not only do the exact same thing anyway, but someone who also actively hates you. You continue to fail to understand that there is no scenario where going down that path is in any way going to work out well for you. You are advocating not only making the situation worse, but electing a man who has campaigned on bringing the hate directly to your doorstep.

Lastly:

Once you start throwing around extremist rhetoric like “zionist”, I stop paying attention

Thanks for discussing this in good faith by calling my reasonable grievances “extremist rhetoric”.

No, I called your use of the word "zionist" in that context extremist rhetoric.

This is exactly what is alienating Muslims. Perfectly proving the point.

Calling you out for using extremist rhetoric is "alienating muslims"? Or is it just not agreeing with you?

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