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This is the actual "mildly infuriating" part of this post for me. Criticizing YouTube for pushing subscriptions on its users is 100% justified, but posting rage-baity screenshots of low-quality websites without any sources or context is probably not the way to do that.

The time for YouTube to ask for more money was before they made hundreds of unpopular decisions and drove away literally hundreds of creators that I liked.

Where are they now? On Nebula? I stopped watching much YouTube since couple of years, though I had a decent feed back in the day.

Ironically, I still do use YouTube Music despite it's failings when compared to Spotify(no third party app support or shitty search results even now) but Atleast it worked for me when Amazon Prime Music refused to play in any web browser on Linux for me.

Most of the creators I liked are on Twitch now or have quit. A very small amount made the pivot to Patreon. Nebula creators are often very successful youtubers who are smart enough to make a new business, though some are academics who don't do so well on youtube. I use youtube music too! And pay for it... And I'm invested, I want alternatives. I was about ready to download all of my YouTube music stuff and go hop onto band camp, despite that it would be many times more expensive. I just wanna be treated right.

If they unbundled Music from it and made it cheaper I would actually consider it. I don't need the music, the family has Spotify.

As it stands it is more expensive for my family than actual streaming services.

They've bundled music into it because music costs them a fraction as much as the video side while letting them charge 70% of a spotify subscription cost to make it a "good deal"

Bundles are great if and only if you need and use everything in the bundle. Businesses love bundles because they know you won't use it all.