did we really just survive this?

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Beehaw is just... doing their own thing. They even removed down votes. Like Tildes, they have a specific vision of community and are going against the grain to cultivate it.

I can't say that I agree with Beehaw's direction and decision to defederate. But that's a feature of both Lemmy and Beehaw's vision of community. Some vocal minority of people are taking it too seriously because they are treating Lemmy as normal social media and perceiving this all as slights. We don't need to be tribalistic. And, if one does want to be tribalistic, they are free to go try and join one of the cut-off tribalistic instances like Beehaw. I have an account there and... it does feel different. Lemmy in general is calmer and more prone to high quality interactions. Beehaw is, too. But Beehaw is the "this is a Christian Minecraft server!!" of Lemmy at the moment.

I think it would be healthier if people stopped treating Lemmy as 1:1 Reddit replacement and instead as a local bbs with Reddit-like interface that can, not will, connect to other bbs using the same infrastructure.

Indeed. Beehaw is like a friendly cultivated forum site, that wants to let its users go out and interact with other similar forum sites. I think it's understandable that to create that curated experience they defederate from servers they think would harm it, every instance has its own approach to it. The instance I'm on, VLemmy, recently held a vote and decided to not defederate even with really shitty instances, instead opting to let users curate their own experience. To each their own, that's one of the great things about the decentralization of the Lemmy protocol, every server can do its own thing and users can join whichever they would like or host their own.

I just think of beehaw as its own individual site that happens to use Lemmy.

Like when all the different sites all had the same forum software, but it's not like they were connected or anything. Don't even think they could be connected.

Lemmy is just a convenient platform for them.

And that's fine. They have their advantages of a more private platform but the disadvantages of it never being as busy or popular as it would be while federated