War on crime is usually just a war against poor people.
Maybe try making them less poor and see how crime falls. Its only (checks notes) backed up by science.
Good luck with that. The biggest criminals are the incompetent politicians, there's more and worse poverty in SA now than ever before.
Somehow they can completely drain the country of money but at the same time can't find their way out of a paper bag.
South Africa is, from what I hear from south African immigrants, a hell hole of crime and corruption. It's not necessarily poor people committing all the crime. But yet these private security forces aren't going to be targeting the richer corrupt people committing the worst crimes.
It's not just economic crimes this is wanton rape, murder, and wholesale take overs of state infrastructure by organised crime outfits. This isn't normal crime like you may encounter in other countries, we are frequently topping the list in the most violent categories of crime.
Right now theres an epidemic of gender based violence, that is men raping and murdering women or male partners/spouses just outright murdering their partners. Doubt this is linked to a war against poor people.
Are you trying to tell me rich people are comminuting these crimes at parallel rates to poor people?
Im gonna press X to doubt
Also if you're telling me that the only thing stopping people from raping people, and committing senseless murders is money then that's a pretty sad indictment on humankind.
Never said it was the only thing, just the #1 thing
Frankly could not care for your opinion unless you live here, or a country with similar rates of crime.
How would that be possible when like 75% are poor? Should the rich be doing it at 3x the rate to keep up?
Lemme rephrase with your 75% example.
Your logic: If 75% are poor, then 75% of the crimes should be committed by poor people.
Reality: poor people commit most crimes.
End poverty if you want to end the bulk of crime.
End poverty if you want to end the bulk of crime.
Yeah, no one is saying that isn't the solution to a lot of crime (not sure about GBV though, it should come down with better education).
Unfortunately when Mandela took over, the ANC did nothing to improve the education system for the poor, so now you can basically get through school by just showing up and sleeping in class.
Sounds like "no child left behind"
Horrible policy designed to make education EFFICIENT isntead of EFFECTIVE
Pretty much yeah.
When the kids weren't passing, instead of trying to improve their circumstances and enable them to learn more successfully as well as up skilling the teachers, their solution was to lower the pass mark. This went on for years until the pass mark got to the 30% it is today.
Then again, my Zimbabwean friend always reminds me of the time that the students were given a text book that was a year or two behind, and in protest they burned them all. There also needs to be a certain desire to learn and better yourself.
There are also those who walk 1h+ to school and back every day in the sweltering heat, pouring rain and sometimes through rivers.
The priorities of the government are really only to enrich themselves and keep the populous uneducated so that their propaganda works on them.
I love my country but holy fuck, shits fucked back home.
War on crime is usually just a war against poor people.
Maybe try making them less poor and see how crime falls. Its only (checks notes) backed up by science.
Good luck with that. The biggest criminals are the incompetent politicians, there's more and worse poverty in SA now than ever before.
Somehow they can completely drain the country of money but at the same time can't find their way out of a paper bag.
South Africa is, from what I hear from south African immigrants, a hell hole of crime and corruption. It's not necessarily poor people committing all the crime. But yet these private security forces aren't going to be targeting the richer corrupt people committing the worst crimes.
It's not just economic crimes this is wanton rape, murder, and wholesale take overs of state infrastructure by organised crime outfits. This isn't normal crime like you may encounter in other countries, we are frequently topping the list in the most violent categories of crime.
Right now theres an epidemic of gender based violence, that is men raping and murdering women or male partners/spouses just outright murdering their partners. Doubt this is linked to a war against poor people.
Are you trying to tell me rich people are comminuting these crimes at parallel rates to poor people?
Im gonna press X to doubt
Also if you're telling me that the only thing stopping people from raping people, and committing senseless murders is money then that's a pretty sad indictment on humankind.
Never said it was the only thing, just the #1 thing
Frankly could not care for your opinion unless you live here, or a country with similar rates of crime.
How would that be possible when like 75% are poor? Should the rich be doing it at 3x the rate to keep up?
Lemme rephrase with your 75% example.
Your logic: If 75% are poor, then 75% of the crimes should be committed by poor people.
Reality: poor people commit most crimes.
End poverty if you want to end the bulk of crime.
Yeah, no one is saying that isn't the solution to a lot of crime (not sure about GBV though, it should come down with better education). Unfortunately when Mandela took over, the ANC did nothing to improve the education system for the poor, so now you can basically get through school by just showing up and sleeping in class.
Sounds like "no child left behind"
Horrible policy designed to make education EFFICIENT isntead of EFFECTIVE
Pretty much yeah.
When the kids weren't passing, instead of trying to improve their circumstances and enable them to learn more successfully as well as up skilling the teachers, their solution was to lower the pass mark. This went on for years until the pass mark got to the 30% it is today.
Then again, my Zimbabwean friend always reminds me of the time that the students were given a text book that was a year or two behind, and in protest they burned them all. There also needs to be a certain desire to learn and better yourself. There are also those who walk 1h+ to school and back every day in the sweltering heat, pouring rain and sometimes through rivers.
The priorities of the government are really only to enrich themselves and keep the populous uneducated so that their propaganda works on them.
I love my country but holy fuck, shits fucked back home.