Saudi Arabia won’t recognize Israel without a path to a Palestinian state, top diplomat says

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Saudi Arabia won't recognize Israel without a path to a Palestinian state, top diplomat says
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Well no. Because this charter is meant to supersede that. Just like nobody accuses the US of banning alcohol after having replaced that amendment with one saying alcohol is fine again. Trying to hang the original charter around their neck like an anchor is a propaganda thing meant to prevent them from moderating.

Do we want less violence or more?

Considering they have still been launching rockets at civilian centers not to mention killing innocent Israelis, taking hostages, etc since putting in the new charter, Im not sure I believe them.

Since Israel has been killing civilians at the fastest rate since World War 2, I'm not sure I believe their statements.

But if there's to be peace there must be a good faith effort. And Israel has never shown that.

Neither has Hamas. There are no good guys in this conflict, which is what makes it very difficult.

Hamas stood for election on a moderate platform. But Israel immediately declared war on them. Hamas reduced their demands for peace to an end of the occupation and an actual Palestinian state. Israel scoffed and bombed hospitals because the doctors were political members of Hamas.

They also attempted to take part in the Trump administration negotiations and got locked out. They then waited for Biden, and got nothing.

How long does one keep writing letters before they pick up a musket?

And they have been firing rockets the entire god damn time, so I don’t believe they are moderate at all, sorry

Don't Hamas have a right to defend themselves?

Also, firing rockets at densely populated civilian centers is “defending yourself” LMAO

And bombing hospitals because a Hamas affiliated doctor is? Shooting protest medics?

Hamas is operating at the limits of their capability. Israel is completely capable of small strikes and extractions.

My favorite part is when there have been ceasefires or other attempts at peace, where Hamas says nah and just keeps attacking anyway

That's a product of the media accepting IDF propaganda where they decide the day the war "starts". They kill Palestinians and then act like the war started when Hamas retaliates. According to CNN and the IDF they're allowed to do whatever they they want, but one rocket is a breach of the cease fire.

The double standard is exposed and it's not working anymore.

Same thing with Israel. They will have settlers and soldiers attacking while "at peace" or during negotiations.