I hope someday we'll find a way to pirated a car

devilish666@lemmy.world to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com – 995 points –

In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn't feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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They will just keep adding stuff to this and removing it feom the "free" tear

Soon, auto manufacturers will learn what happens when buying isn't owning.

People will definitely download a car, or the crack for all its features.

I think sooner or later open source cars will be a thing. The problem (well, it's a good thing) is that cars need to pass inspection to be road ready. But not bike-like vehicles.

Well if it's an inspection issue, you'll be able to have an inspection mode if you're a clever programmer.

This might shock you but cars where open source for years. Did you think those super detailed shop manuals anyone could buy where not intended to be used to work on the car? How about the massive aftermarket and any and all hot rods? This idea that you can't fuck with you own stuff because its got a computer in it for "safety" is relatively new. Does no one else remember hooking a laptop up to the old ECUs and modifying how the engine works?

You can absolutely fuck with your car and install after market parts. But your car still needs to pass a minimum level of road safety. That's for the common good. I mean things like having correct lights, crumple zones, brakes, mirrors etc. Now if you want to make a car that runs on used kit hen scraps I totally think you should. We should own. Own devices including their computer system. But I don't just the average Joe with the parts that keep me safe from them.

Also, this might not shock you, but cars also used to suck in many ways. Not everything from the past is good.

That’s for the common good

The issue is normalizing the concept that you do not get to control what you paid for. Responsibility has not changed, you can drive your car into a crowded park and would still be guilty of it regardless of how stock it is. If you mod your stuff to be dangerous that would be a crime. In this case would you say that remote starting your car from your phone somehow is a public safety issue? At least if you jailbroke it to work on your own network?

Good luck trying to do that

Auto manufacturers are notorious for having terrible security. It'll be a cakewalk for innovators.

Sure, start sharing what car has been hacked. Any? No? But autos have had computers for years, why havent they been hacked?

Well it is a computer that people own (even if it is in a car), and at least one person will want to mess with that computer.

Remind me again what assumptions you can make about software integrity if the hardware it runs on is in full possession of a known attacker?

You dont "own" it if you cant change the code.

The car mfgrs don't have a chance. I'm looking forward to rooted BMWs with free heated seats.