‘Seismic shift’: driving unaffordable for many in US amid push toward SUVs

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‘Seismic shift’: driving unaffordable for many in US amid push toward SUVs
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I'm honestly trying to explore this point about vans, because I've seen it come up a lot. Not just your argument, but there's an idea among the FuckCars crowd that vans are superior in every way to pickup trucks, and pickups are only for penis enhancement. It's silly and misunderstands how the two are built and why people might choose one over the other.

Basically, my argument comes down to most people don't need either one (and we seem to be aligned on that), but past a certain point where people actually use their big vehicles, either vans or pickup trucks are fine. Europeans often choose vans because it works for them and Americans often choose pickup trucks because it works for them. Americans need to buy fewer F150s or anything else in that size class, and neither side of the Atlantic should be buying so many crossovers/SUVs.

Yeah, man, so... maybe have that argument with someone who is having that argument?

I mean, cool, I get it, you're itching to make that case to somebody who is making the opposite case, but if you just blast it at people who are not saying the thing you're responding to it just... doesn't really work that well.