What's the deal with beehaw.org?
Is there drama or a story I'm missing? As I understand it, from lemmy.world I can see their posts but they cannot see mine. Why did beehaw block lemmy.world?
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Is there drama or a story I'm missing? As I understand it, from lemmy.world I can see their posts but they cannot see mine. Why did beehaw block lemmy.world?
For anyone interested, they explained the reasoning behind this particular defederation here:
https://docs.beehaw.org/docs/important-questions-decisions-and-reflections/on-defederation/
At the end of the day beehaw wants to be tightly moderated and it's kind of imposible to properly moderate huge amounts of users at the moment with their tools so they decided to ban big instances that don't require any verification to join
So basically, they want to be like reddit with authoritative mods and overreactive bans.
Wrong.
Beehaw has a specific goal, and it's transparently taking actions to further that goal. It's neither acting "on a whim" or enforcing hidden rules, like Reddit authoritative mods would.
Personally I don't like this sort of moderation, I feel better in environments where mods/admins let users sort themselves out, but to compare it with the situation in Reddit is, if I may be honest, a fucking stupid false equivalence. And even if we two don't need safe spaces, it's good to have a few of them here and there, and Beehaw fits that role fine.
Agree with the sentiment, I don't need it nor is it my thing, I prefer to be the one that has to do the blocking rather than mods, but I can see why it's there.
I hate when people try to do safe spaces and some outsider looks at it and starts staying it's authoritarian, an echo chamber, propaganda, power hungry admins, etc. Like, dude if there is a group of people that want to be protected from certain rethoric, it's pathetic to act with indignation just because the don't want everyone to interact. Not every community is about fitting everyone and being neutral, as long as they are transparent with it let them have their place in peace.
It feels kind of creepy. But if they like it, I guess that’s their business.
I don't feel it as creepy; it's useful for some situations, topics, and people. In special, it's a good way to build a comfy place for people in marginalised groups to talk about their stuff, without hearing for the 20956th time the same helicopter joke.
You can’t say that for certain, yet you certainly seem to believe it.
That's appeal to ignorance but I'll bite.
Perhaps I can't claim it with complete certainty; but that applies to everyone, and everything. Nobody can be fully certain of anything at all. However since that leads to some useless trash called "solipsism", we need to put an arbitrary line somewhere, and say that some things are certain enough to allow us to claim them "for certain".
And, in this case, we got two good ways to place that line: 1) consistency with the data at hand, and 2) Ockham's razor.
What I claimed is consistent with the behaviour and statements of the administration of that instance, and it explains the event (their decision to defederate lemmy.world). And it's also the simplest explanation for it. So yeah, I am claiming it for certain.
You know what can't be claimed for certain though? What someone else "wants". For example, your claim that they "want to be like Reddit".
This is pretty much ignorable given that nobody have access to anyone else's "beliefs".