What is keeping you on reddit?

averageshade@lemm.ee to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml – 44 points –
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Nothing. I miss being more informed on what’s going on in the world but I don’t miss mindless Reddit discussion about it. I miss a lot of subs though. If AskHistorians goes back to normal, I might pop in for that occasionally.

This is getting better and better though, I’d rather ride out our awkward phase than get sucked back in to the Reddit cesspool and drift away. Although we really need to stop talking about Reddit so much.

What is going on with ask historians? Last I heard they seemed to just be shutting down entirely rather than relocating, very odd move for a forum many people really appreciate and would probably follow.

They haven’t shut down entirely. They’re in this weird restricted state where flairs can respond to old unanswered comments and they have these daily themed discussion threads. But you can’t ask new questions right now.

The mods seem pretty committed to Reddit and not moving. Their goals aren’t quite in line with the third party app devs and they’ll probably get enough of what they want eventually to come back. They want better mod tools and Reddit will give them a few minor improvements which they’ll call a win and turn back on. They’re not holding out for third party apps to come back or anything like that.

I find this really disappointing, they should find more meaningful ways to at least spread out from Reddit. They could mirror questions and answers in the fediverse at least which would give them a foothold outside of Reddit when it does eventually implode. But the mods are somewhat hostile towards these kind of ideas. But I don’t have any insight in to their private conversations so I could be off base. They just get kinda snippy with people who suggest anything besides hope Reddit improves.

It's a classic fallacy where people refuse to prepare a second best fallback option because they can't accept the possibility of plan A not working. Very very foolish behavior since often the best way to improve your negotiating position to get what you really want is to have another alternative. Reddit would be more likely to give them what they want if every day they were getting more established at a new location rather than slowly deflating back on reddit.

In fairness to them, they've massively outgrown the subreddit format and are only there because of legacy reasons and inertia.

It's so uniquely and heavily moderated, it's one of the few communities where it would make more sense to spin off into it's own site where everything is custom made for them as opposed to continuing to jam reddit's square mod tools into their circular requirements.

I like Lemmy for the few weeks I've been here, but the nascent moderation tools are even less appropriate for that particular sub than even reddit post-July 1st nerf.