Roku’s Ultimatum: Surrender Jury Trial Rights or Lose Access to Your TVs

caleb@programming.dev to Technology@lemmy.world – 1495 points –

Did your Roku TV decide to strong arm you into giving up your rights or lose your FULLY FUNCTIONING WORKING TV? Because mine did.

It doesn't matter if you only use it as a dumb panel for an Apple TV, Fire stick, or just to play your gaming console. You either agree or get bent.

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It's not enforceable at all, but it's an extra step of litigation that the average consumer can't afford to wade through

Are you sure it isn't enforceable? Forced arbitration clauses are very common and I think pretty solid legally.

There have been US court cases where arbitration clauses were voided if they weren't prominently visible outside the box before purchase. Dang vs Samsung

Before purchase seems to be the big thing. LG is also under fire for this regarding fridges as they put it on the box but typically that wasn't seen prior to purchase (the fridge models on the floor are unboxed) and many people use delivery companies that do the unboxing before the item gets to the consumer.

The FAIR Act prohibits mandatory arbitration agreements for employment, consumer, antitrust, or civil rights disputes. The FAIR Act also protects the rights of individuals and small businesses to participate in joint, class, or collective actions related to such disputes.

FAIR Act

badass, but I am not sure the FAIR act was signed into law. I am finding conflicting information https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/hr963

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/963

Yeah so it has passed the house but the Senate hasn't voted on it and therefore the President hasn't signed it and it isn't law?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/963/all-actions?overview=closed#tabs

This is the latest entry ...

Received in the Senate and Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.

Dated 03/21/2022. It's been almost exactly two years since this motion. It's not going anywhere. Government sucks.

Dated 03/21/2022. It’s been almost exactly two years since this motion. It’s not going anywhere. Government sucks.

You never know, but if you stay cynical, stay beaten down, then definitely nothing is going to change.

Call your house representative member. Let them know you know of the existence of this, and would like to see it move forward.

If everyone did that, instead of just posting on Reddit/Lemmy, they'd see change.

You are completely correct. Before I do that, I would need to read the whole charter, to make sure they didn't sneak anything nefarious into it as they like to do. But then, yes, calling the reps should help some. Governments still suck, though. Most are no longer for the people en mass. Still, though, while governments may suck, they are made of people, and still have a people's heart, even if it has to be helped to grow a few sizes.

Before I do that, I would need to read the whole charter, to make sure they didn’t sneak anything nefarious into it as they like to do.

This comment has a direct link to the agreement that you can review, as well as the comment itself points out two clauses that might help you.