Grisham on Trump’s meeting with Orbán: ‘He wants to be a dictator’

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Grisham on Trump’s meeting with Orbán: ‘He wants to be a dictator’
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Trump repeatedly told him to find votes, despite the guy repeatedly telling him that his concerns had been addressed and the count was good. He was clearly pressuring him to change the outcome. Any objective person can see that.

And lol at the idea that I've "haven't heard that side before." It's the only thing that people dealing the cognitive dissonance of supporting Trump while at the same saying they hate corruption spout any time you bring it up. It's equally as dumb as "Well, he just said 'ice him' so he probably just meant he wanted him cooled down."

Clearly that meeting started out with them talking about voter fraud. I dont really care if trump was right or wrong, it was about what he intended, and it was clear he was wanting them to find fraudulent votes. You are not being objective if you still think it was about just getting votes. You can believe that, but that is not what the meeting was about, and to say otherwise is just to be wrong.

it was about what he intended, and it was clear he was wanting them to find fraudulent votes.

You clearly haven't even listened to it or read a transcript. He isn't asking him to find fraudulent votes, he's saying (paraphrased) "we both know I won, so find just enough votes for me to win." So you are literally guilty of what you are accusing me of; you haven't even bothered to really be exposed to the opposing view. And it even if we want to give him the benefit of the doubt, and that he was really just trying to make sure the count was good, the guy repeatedly tells him that his concerns have been addressed and the count is valid and accurate. And yet he persists, first pressuring, then intimidating, and then outright telling them to find votes. If you're willing to see it, it's obvious that his intent is for the guy to ignore the actual outcome and change it.

Read it with an open mind.

Yeah, I saw it. Did you notice that the whole part of trump talking was about the various ways he thought there was voter fraud?

Of course I did, because I actually read it and listened to it. You seem to be ignoring the fact that you were wrong about what he was asking for. Why is that?

What was the whole first section of trump about?

Why would I answer your question when you refuse to answer mine?

I wasnt wrong, so I am not able to answer a question like that. What was the whole first section of trump about?