If they weren't all so abysmally bad at handling their cars, maybe I'd have a different take. I swear that I get cut off, stuck behind, blocked by, or otherwise inconvenienced for dumb reasons by Teslas every time I drive.
It's like despite all the cameras, they have zero spatial awareness. Or it's a direct reflection of what's in their head.
I'm not disagreeing, but having driven a Tesla for a couple weeks-- it'll make a good driver look bad every time. Turning radius is surprisingly bad. Normal (through the window/mirror) visibility is bad. Handling is super weird and probably unlearnable in the default settings because the car seems to be constantly "correcting" your inputs even when not in autopilot. The default break style gives me motion sickness even when I'm the one driving. And the turn signals-- you just don't know how long they'll stay on, so I did start to feel reluctant to use them?
Interesting take. Thanks.
Do you think that embarrassment of the purchase, ignorance of what's good, or status prevent more buyers from talking about that? As a person who enjoys the act of driving (though not the experience of driving in this city), I should see if I can get behind the wheel of one and attempt to be objective.
I do encourage you to rent one. I like driving, too, and I just didn't think it was a good experience. But I didn't really fool around with the programs. It's interesting at least.
It's possible drivers who care have figured it out, but there is at least a very large learning curve.
I have a 73 Porsche 914, it's my second. I've had two 1970 Monte Carlos. Both vastly different vehicles, but both are extremely visceral cars. You're extremely connected to the road and the vehicle.
There seems to be an abstraction layer with Teslas.
Renting one is a great idea.
Haha, you are orders of magnitude bigger driving enthusiast than myself! I'd be interested to know what you think of the Tesla.
Eh...
I hate to do it, but in fairness the worst drivers are going to be the first to adapt self driving cars.
The issue is Tesla misrepresents how "self driving" their cars are.
So idiots who are bad drivers think the car is a good driver. Because they're comparing it to their own driving, and overestimate how good they are at it
It's not just to my own driving. It's compared to other cars around them and to other cars around me. I just as often see Tesla drivers do stupid things unrelated to me.
I was at the mountain snowboarding this weekend. Two Teslas attempted to drive up the road to park. Both got stuck in the same place, one after the other. Then, instead of backing up or getting out of the way, they just got out and walked to the resort lodge.
This is just idiotic behavior and I see it time and time again. Seattle, where I live, has one of the highest Tesla ownership percentages in the country.
I'm all for electric cars. I am trying to understand why Tesla drivers have so many morons behind the wheel.
If they weren't all so abysmally bad at handling their cars, maybe I'd have a different take. I swear that I get cut off, stuck behind, blocked by, or otherwise inconvenienced for dumb reasons by Teslas every time I drive.
It's like despite all the cameras, they have zero spatial awareness. Or it's a direct reflection of what's in their head.
I'm not disagreeing, but having driven a Tesla for a couple weeks-- it'll make a good driver look bad every time. Turning radius is surprisingly bad. Normal (through the window/mirror) visibility is bad. Handling is super weird and probably unlearnable in the default settings because the car seems to be constantly "correcting" your inputs even when not in autopilot. The default break style gives me motion sickness even when I'm the one driving. And the turn signals-- you just don't know how long they'll stay on, so I did start to feel reluctant to use them?
Interesting take. Thanks.
Do you think that embarrassment of the purchase, ignorance of what's good, or status prevent more buyers from talking about that? As a person who enjoys the act of driving (though not the experience of driving in this city), I should see if I can get behind the wheel of one and attempt to be objective.
Edit: relevant post. https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/ea297ad5-1e8f-45cd-abad-d2b50d53e2bf.webp
I do encourage you to rent one. I like driving, too, and I just didn't think it was a good experience. But I didn't really fool around with the programs. It's interesting at least.
It's possible drivers who care have figured it out, but there is at least a very large learning curve.
I have a 73 Porsche 914, it's my second. I've had two 1970 Monte Carlos. Both vastly different vehicles, but both are extremely visceral cars. You're extremely connected to the road and the vehicle.
There seems to be an abstraction layer with Teslas.
Renting one is a great idea.
Haha, you are orders of magnitude bigger driving enthusiast than myself! I'd be interested to know what you think of the Tesla.
Eh...
I hate to do it, but in fairness the worst drivers are going to be the first to adapt self driving cars.
The issue is Tesla misrepresents how "self driving" their cars are.
So idiots who are bad drivers think the car is a good driver. Because they're comparing it to their own driving, and overestimate how good they are at it
It's not just to my own driving. It's compared to other cars around them and to other cars around me. I just as often see Tesla drivers do stupid things unrelated to me.
I was at the mountain snowboarding this weekend. Two Teslas attempted to drive up the road to park. Both got stuck in the same place, one after the other. Then, instead of backing up or getting out of the way, they just got out and walked to the resort lodge.
This is just idiotic behavior and I see it time and time again. Seattle, where I live, has one of the highest Tesla ownership percentages in the country.
I'm all for electric cars. I am trying to understand why Tesla drivers have so many morons behind the wheel.