Ubuntu 23.10’s New Software App Will Demote DEBs (Apparently)

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Ubuntu 23.10's New Software App Will Demote DEBs (Apparently) - OMG! Ubuntu
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A new ‘app store’ is expected to ship as part of Ubuntu 23.10 when it’s released in October — and it’ll debut with a notable change to DEB support.

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Time to change distro.

Honestly for new/average users, those who tend to use Ubuntu, I always would recommend Manjaro. Since I use arch btw myself I have a bias but using pacman, being rolling release, and having access to the AUR (+ Flatpaks) set Manjaro apart from other distros for average users.

But frankly I never understood why Debian itself is considered an "intermediate" distro since it's no harder than Ubuntu to use IMO.

Debian is more bare bones then Ubuntu, that's why. Ubuntu comes with a lot of packages already installed by default. In Debian you have to install a lot of that stuff manually. You might also have to edit some configs for example. It's not that hard, but maybe a little too much for a beginner.

I upgraded Debian to 12 last night, which required manually updating the source.list for the apt repos for example. It's been a while but I'm pretty sure Ubuntu gives you a UI for upgrades? Upgrading Debian was simple for a techie who's played around in Linux already, but it could be more intimidating for a newbie.

I'm kinda baffled people would jump ship because of this matter
Snaps have been a thing for 7 years and before that Canonical did similar really weird things (Amazon shopping lense a decade ago anyone?)

anyone who really cares already uses something else

the first thing I did with Ubuntu is uninstall all snaps and stores. it was an option, soon it wont be.

It's just because I'm a newbie – having been using Linux for one year, and started with Ubuntu simply because that was shipped ready with my laptop. I haven't found the time to try any other distro yet, because of work & lack of time.

Indeed I remember I was thinking about moving to Linux years ago, exactly when the Amazon-Ubuntu craziness happened, so I thought "some other time".

Regarding snap & flatpak: I simply don't like the redundancy philosophy behind them.

If it works, don't switch distros. There's always an OS which does sth. better.

That's also true! Sometimes out of curiosity I might explore with "live cd"s rather than really reinstalling a distro.

Trying sth new is never a bad idea. From live cd's, over vm's or distrobox containers, it makes you more comfortable in switching between environments.