Honestly it's fucked up how our school system treats children. We need to talk about racism but also about how children are not to be seen as some sort of human clay that we need to form into whatever we see fit.
It's not entirely clear what you're saying, but the sooner we acknowledge that children are inevitably formed by their environment and there's no "natural" way to let them somehow form themselves the sooner we can start discussing what is good to teach them and the correct way to do it.
Oh so you want to groom children? (this is sarcasm trying to point out why we can't have nice things)
Unironically yes. I want to groom them to be a wonderful, compassionate member of society with the tools to manage their mental health and ask for help when they need it.
I'm not entirely sure what you're saying either, but nature vs nurture wasn't settled in nurture's favor. It's somewhere in between.
I'll be honest, this doesn't really make sense as a response to my post. It wouldn't really matter where you or I fall on the nature vs nurture argument for my post to be relevant. (Unless one of us somehow believed it was entirely nature.)
I think there was an implicit premise (intentional or not) in your statement about there being no natural way to let kids develop, and that's what they were commenting on.
Oh I see, I used the word natural and they made the connection to the the idea of nature vs nurture because it also uses nature. That makes sense.
and can we please start to talk about how parents are not fit to raise children?
we need child care as a profession.
“Our school system”?
Dunno where you’re from, but different countries have different standards of education.
They're from the racist country that isn't allowed to talk about it. I get the US defaultism but cmon
Even in the US that's not consistent. We definitely talked about unsavory parts of US history in my state.
children are clay. That's the problem. The issue arises with how do we best raise them to be most equipped to tackle every day things.
Personally, i'm of the belief that we should teach them as much as possible, get them into more complex fields earlier, sociology and psychology especially. A good psych/socio class experience in HS can REALLY change someones life for the better.
Saying that children aren't to be treated like clay is wrong. They are clay, we need to be conscious of that, and sculpt them into a properly functioning human, who can enjoy life, and respect others. Not just raise them to be a wage slave or whatever the fuck the current meta is now. We saw this exact problem with the "feral child" incident.
Honestly it's fucked up how our school system treats children. We need to talk about racism but also about how children are not to be seen as some sort of human clay that we need to form into whatever we see fit.
It's not entirely clear what you're saying, but the sooner we acknowledge that children are inevitably formed by their environment and there's no "natural" way to let them somehow form themselves the sooner we can start discussing what is good to teach them and the correct way to do it.
Oh so you want to groom children? (this is sarcasm trying to point out why we can't have nice things)
Unironically yes. I want to groom them to be a wonderful, compassionate member of society with the tools to manage their mental health and ask for help when they need it.
I'm not entirely sure what you're saying either, but nature vs nurture wasn't settled in nurture's favor. It's somewhere in between.
I'll be honest, this doesn't really make sense as a response to my post. It wouldn't really matter where you or I fall on the nature vs nurture argument for my post to be relevant. (Unless one of us somehow believed it was entirely nature.)
I think there was an implicit premise (intentional or not) in your statement about there being no natural way to let kids develop, and that's what they were commenting on.
Oh I see, I used the word natural and they made the connection to the the idea of nature vs nurture because it also uses nature. That makes sense.
and can we please start to talk about how parents are not fit to raise children?
we need child care as a profession.
“Our school system”?
Dunno where you’re from, but different countries have different standards of education.
They're from the racist country that isn't allowed to talk about it. I get the US defaultism but cmon
Even in the US that's not consistent. We definitely talked about unsavory parts of US history in my state.
children are clay. That's the problem. The issue arises with how do we best raise them to be most equipped to tackle every day things.
Personally, i'm of the belief that we should teach them as much as possible, get them into more complex fields earlier, sociology and psychology especially. A good psych/socio class experience in HS can REALLY change someones life for the better.
Saying that children aren't to be treated like clay is wrong. They are clay, we need to be conscious of that, and sculpt them into a properly functioning human, who can enjoy life, and respect others. Not just raise them to be a wage slave or whatever the fuck the current meta is now. We saw this exact problem with the "feral child" incident.