Being a worker is empowering if you abolish Owners.
You can't really abolish ownership. Only transfer it. Abolish all private enterprise?
Congrats, the elite political class that rules your government now owns you. :)
You can abolish ownership and make decisions democratically. It's better than Capitalism where the wealthy few own the majority without democracy.
What does that even mean in the context of sex work? People no longer own their own bodies? Sounds disempowering to me. A dystopia!
Collective ownership, no individual ownership.
Sex work would still be fundamentally different though, it isn't the same as regular labor.
Collective ownership? So I can hop on your laptop and do whatever I want?
No.
You can use your laptop to start the next TikTok. Your laptop is a means of production.
I understand. Collective Ownership entails collective management of Capital based on agreed-upon rules. It does not mean nobody owns anything.
Where do you draw the line between capital and personal property?
Outlaw Capitalism, easy.
That's not an answer. That's just restating the name of your position.
Here's an example: suppose I buy a bunch of woodworking tools and put them in my garage. I now have a woodworking shop which I can use to make and sell furniture. Is that capital? Am I required to surrender my garage to the authorities?
Depends on what is democratically decided as the rule. The idea of buying a bunch of woodworking tools for the purpose of selling furniture is probably off the table (haha).
Why would you want to?
Because woodworking is a fun hobby that you can turn into a business. Because I value craftsmanship and attention to detail over mass-produced furniture. Because I believe in independent artisans, apprenticeships, and the sharing of knowledge.
If you are in favour of a world where this is not possible then I want no part of that. That sounds like a horrific dystopia!
I also believe you put far too much faith in democracy. Look at the democracies we have around the world today. Sure, they are not as bad as the totalitarian states but they are far from perfect. Democracies are also struggling from a crisis of faith in institutions. How are you going to build a collective society when everyone has lost faith in institutions?
Being a worker is degrading.
Being an owner is empowering.
Being a worker is empowering if you abolish Owners.
You can't really abolish ownership. Only transfer it. Abolish all private enterprise?
Congrats, the elite political class that rules your government now owns you. :)
You can abolish ownership and make decisions democratically. It's better than Capitalism where the wealthy few own the majority without democracy.
What does that even mean in the context of sex work? People no longer own their own bodies? Sounds disempowering to me. A dystopia!
Collective ownership, no individual ownership.
Sex work would still be fundamentally different though, it isn't the same as regular labor.
Collective ownership? So I can hop on your laptop and do whatever I want?
No.
You can use your laptop to start the next TikTok. Your laptop is a means of production.
I understand. Collective Ownership entails collective management of Capital based on agreed-upon rules. It does not mean nobody owns anything.
Where do you draw the line between capital and personal property?
Outlaw Capitalism, easy.
That's not an answer. That's just restating the name of your position.
Here's an example: suppose I buy a bunch of woodworking tools and put them in my garage. I now have a woodworking shop which I can use to make and sell furniture. Is that capital? Am I required to surrender my garage to the authorities?
Depends on what is democratically decided as the rule. The idea of buying a bunch of woodworking tools for the purpose of selling furniture is probably off the table (haha).
Why would you want to?
Because woodworking is a fun hobby that you can turn into a business. Because I value craftsmanship and attention to detail over mass-produced furniture. Because I believe in independent artisans, apprenticeships, and the sharing of knowledge.
If you are in favour of a world where this is not possible then I want no part of that. That sounds like a horrific dystopia!
I also believe you put far too much faith in democracy. Look at the democracies we have around the world today. Sure, they are not as bad as the totalitarian states but they are far from perfect. Democracies are also struggling from a crisis of faith in institutions. How are you going to build a collective society when everyone has lost faith in institutions?