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So to be clear, when something is magnitudes more than something else, that means on the scale of 100-1000x more, or even higher powers of ten. If rape + murder is magnitudes worse than murder, then definitionally rape alone must also be magnitudes worse than murder.

Of course multiple atrocities are worse than a single atrocity, but talking about one being magnitudes worse than the other, to me seems to immensely downplay the seriousness of the other.

For example, to me "murder is magnitudes worse than petty theft" would be an appropriate use of the word.

I'm aware of the definition of the word, yes. And I stand by what I said.

Then I think I'm not understanding something here, maybe you can explain (asking genuinely). Because it seems to me that what you said doesn't make sense with the definition of the word?

I think what you should be considering is just how horrifying a brutal rape is. I'm not going to describe that. I'm going to tell you to put on your thinking hat, and really do some thunking on this one.

I'm not sure why you are being so condescending. I'm well aware how brutal rape can be, I'm also aware how brutal murder can be. But this doesn't explain the logic of yours that I wanted to understand, which was that "when rape includes murder, then rape is magnitudes worse than murder alone".

For one thing, that isn't what I said, is it?

Second, I'm not explaining why a brutal rape is awful. We are done.

Isn't it?

When those are just the precursors to the horrible murder, I'd have to say yes, magnitudes worse.

And I never asked you to explain why rape is awful, I never disagreed with that. I wanted you to explain why it being a precursor to murder, makes it magnitudes worse than murder. But for some reason you insist on pretending that I'm asking "why is rape awful"??

Nice edit.

As I said, we are done.

Anyone can clearly see if edits have been made, and I have not made any. Please don't fabricate lies.