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I'm not sure why you are being so condescending. I'm well aware how brutal rape can be, I'm also aware how brutal murder can be. But this doesn't explain the logic of yours that I wanted to understand, which was that "when rape includes murder, then rape is magnitudes worse than murder alone".

For one thing, that isn't what I said, is it?

Second, I'm not explaining why a brutal rape is awful. We are done.

Isn't it?

When those are just the precursors to the horrible murder, I'd have to say yes, magnitudes worse.

And I never asked you to explain why rape is awful, I never disagreed with that. I wanted you to explain why it being a precursor to murder, makes it magnitudes worse than murder. But for some reason you insist on pretending that I'm asking "why is rape awful"??

Nice edit.

As I said, we are done.

Anyone can clearly see if edits have been made, and I have not made any. Please don't fabricate lies.